The worldmail list archive ending on 6 Dec 2001


Topics covered in this issue include:

  1. RE: Norton AV Gateways
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Sun, 30 Sep 2001 09:01:32 +0100
  2. Relays and NAV
       Ferris Hall <ferris at ferrishall dot com>
       Sun, 30 Sep 2001 14:54:11 -0400
  3. RE: Protocol Trace and Terminal Services
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Sun, 30 Sep 2001 20:49:44 +0100
  4. no udpates
       Ferris Hall <ferris at ferrishall dot com>
       Sun, 30 Sep 2001 22:17:23 -0400
  5. RE: no udpates
       "Ben Saren" <ben at atomicusa dot com>
       Sun, 30 Sep 2001 22:23:22 -0400
  6. Re: no udpates
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
       Mon, 1 Oct 2001 07:07:42 -0500
  7. mail stuck in queue NT4 sp6a
       "lostworld" <support at lostworld dot ws>
       Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:05:52 -0400
  8. Worldmail and Message Labs
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
       Tue, 16 Oct 2001 08:32:17 -0500
  9. 8888 under proxy
       =?iso-8859-1?Q?Cédric_Daimo?= <daimo at praxim dot fr>
       Thu, 18 Oct 2001 15:47:36 +0200
 10. Manage user account via browser and proxy 
       =?iso-8859-1?Q?Cédric_Daimo?= <daimo at praxim dot fr>
       Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:05:26 +0200
 11. Open Relay
       "Nelix, Inc." <matt at deep-thought dot com>
       Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:19:14 -0500
 12. RE: Open Relay
       "Jason Davidson" <jdavidson at crousebeers dot com>
       Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:12:04 -0700
 13. nameserver resolution issue with worldmail
       "lostworld" <support at lostworld dot ws>
       Mon, 22 Oct 2001 16:06:46 -0400
 14. Having problems with DNS
       bennya at totallyhip dot com (Benny Au-Young)
       Mon, 22 Oct 2001 16:43:38 -0700
 15. RE: nameserver resolution issue with worldmail
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Mon, 22 Oct 2001 22:37:59 +0100
 16. RE: Having problems with DNS
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:23:20 +0100
 17. DNS issue resolved!
       "lostworld" <support at lostworld dot ws>
       Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:49:37 -0400
 18. automated relay test? 
       Ferris Hall <ferris at ferrishall dot com>
       Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:46:15 -0400
 19. automated relay test - with images 
       Ferris Hall <ferris at ferrishall dot com>
       Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:24:54 -0400
 20. Distro list oddity
       "Paul Lucente" <plucente at hypotenuse dot com>
       Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:37:09 -0400
 21. Different routes for different folks
       ian <ian at impeccable.org dot uk>
       Sun, 04 Nov 2001 19:40:12 +0000
 22. Cannot subscribe to a dist list using Jmail
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
       Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:32:48 -0600
 23. Re: Antivirus Software
       Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
       Wed, 07 Nov 2001 23:17:40 -0800
 24. Connection Establishment Timeout
       Ann Compton <acompton at nationaloptronics dot com>
       Thu, 08 Nov 2001 09:12:06 -0500
 25. RE: Connection Establishment Timeout
       "Tom Kemp" <KempT at presearch dot com>
       Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:53:36 -0500
 26. Re: Antivirus Software
       Katie Percy <katiepercy at fredfinch dot org>
       Thu, 08 Nov 2001 08:39:01 -0800
 27. Re: Connection Establishment Timeout
       Matt Hemingway <matt at supplyedge dot com>
       Thu, 08 Nov 2001 08:38:03 -0800
 28. Fwd: Re: Connection Establishment Timeout
       Katie Percy <katiepercy at fredfinch dot org>
       Thu, 08 Nov 2001 08:59:58 -0800
 29. Re: Fwd: Re: Connection Establishment Timeout
       Matt Hemingway <matt at supplyedge dot com>
       Thu, 08 Nov 2001 08:59:49 -0800
 30. SMTP log analysis
       Greens In Oz! <greens at canada dot com>
       Fri, 09 Nov 2001 12:07:31 +1000
 31. RE: SMTP log analysis
       "Ben Saren" <ben at atomicusa dot com>
       Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:26:57 -0500
 32. Re: Antivirus Software
       Postmaster <postmaster at smm dot org>
       Fri, 09 Nov 2001 11:58:41 -0600
 33. Deleting Old Users from Lists
       Postmaster <postmaster at smm dot org>
       Fri, 09 Nov 2001 12:27:31 -0600
 34. Worldmail 2.0 Anti-Relaying Problem
       JD West <jdwest at discoverynet dot com>
       Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:27:00 -0600
 35. Re: Worldmail 2.0 Anti-Relaying Problem
       LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
       Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:34:31 -0800
 36. e-mail not leaving server
       Ann Compton <acompton at nationaloptronics dot com>
       Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:50:07 -0500
 37. Re: e-mail not leaving server
       "Ben Saren" <ben at atomicusa dot com>
       Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:52:33 -0500
 38. printing from "preview"
       Katie Percy <katiepercy at fredfinch dot org>
       Thu, 15 Nov 2001 08:55:49 -0800
 39. wierd alias problems
       "Matt Schwartz" <matt at deep-thought dot com>
       Mon, 26 Nov 2001 00:12:06 -0600
 40. Re: WorldMail digest 27 Nov 2001
       Christine Bremer <cbremer at smm dot org>
       Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:27:15 -0600
 41. Changing IP Address
       "Chris Lander" <chris at altuscorp dot com>
       Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:13:06 -0800
 42. RE: wierd alias problems
       "Chris Lander" <chris at altuscorp dot com>
       Mon, 26 Nov 2001 08:56:29 -0800
 43. All IMAP messages for a single user lost!
       <tech at kwur.wustl dot edu>
       Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:58:52 -0600 (CST)
 44. RE: Changing IP Address
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Thu, 29 Nov 2001 07:50:46 -0000
 45. RE: All IMAP messages for a single user lost!
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:04:24 -0000
 46. Re: All IMAP messages for a single user lost!
       Matt Hemingway <matt at supplyedge dot com>
       Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:14:46 -0800
 47. Eudora Dir Services starts/stops
       Gina Senz <gsenz at aium dot org>
       Tue, 04 Dec 2001 08:55:20 -0500
 48. Security hole
       "Ben Saren" <ben at atomicusa dot com>
       Thu, 6 Dec 2001 01:57:03 -0500
 49. Win 2000
       "Sebastian" <sebas at webmaster.com dot sg>
       Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:08:35 +0800
 50. RE: Win 2000
       "Chris Lander" <chris at altuscorp dot com>
       Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:38:28 -0800

From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Norton AV Gateways
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 09:01:32 +0100

In theory you could have 2 different applications listening on same port
number on different NICS - but I think (Henry can confirm I expect) that the
SMTP server in Worldmail takes port 25 on all IP addresses.  [I think this
changed in later versions of the underlying code that never made its way
into Worldmail]

In any case - moving to a different port number usually gives people what
they need.

Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Ferris Hall [mailto:ferris at ferrishall dot com]
Sent: 30 September 2001 05:53
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Norton AV Gateways


Just installed Norton AntiVirus for Gateways 2.5.
Doing a nice job, easy install and configure.
I had read in a previous message about someone using port 1025 for WM, and
(arbitrarily) tried that port to start. Didn't work. Finally tried port
1026, and WM gets it just fine. Just a heads up for those using Windows
2000 Server / IIS 5. I haven't done any serious research into what ports
are used/reserved for W2K server - anyone have a URL of a nice list?

My server has two physical network jacks (on one box) I can assign IPs.
Can I assign NAV to listen on 1.2.3.125 port 25 on network slot 2
and then send the mail to WM 1.2.3.5    port 25 on network slot 1?
Can you use the same port on different NICs/IPs on the same box?

Thanks, Ferris
---
Ferris Hall
Blue Crown Productions



Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 14:54:11 -0400
From: Ferris Hall <ferris at ferrishall dot com>
Subject: Relays and NAV
At 01:53 PM 9/30/2001, ben at atomicusa dot com wrote:
I use a 208.243 address. By only allowing traffic from that whole class c block, or like you suggested.. a class a block, how is that still going to stop IPs within that range from using me as a relay server?

it won't. that just the trick, so you try and be as specific (C blocks if possible) as possible without making yourself or users crazy. example - i've found that SNET users all come in on one B block, and allowed it. AOL users in Nevada might have (guessing here) 3 B blocks.
chances are fair to good that spammers are not using these IPs. also, i've found that they often spoof the IP, usually the IP spoofed refers to some ISP overseas, or is non existent, in which case you're=20 covered.
guess i'd suggest the shotgun approach first - allow lots of blocks and see if/when you can pare it down.

WM is definitely limited, definitely not going to be updated. there seem to be (should be) other mail services out there that incorporate authentication, spam filtering by content, virus checking etc in one package. i don't know what they are, of course. WM was at hand, and have stuck with it. if i had to do it again...

Possible fix!
what NAV DOES do that i am not utilizing is this:
"External Relay
NAV for Gateways lets you specify whether its built-in SMTP server can= be used to relay messages for which neither the sender nor the receiver are= local. By controlling from which remote hosts mail is accepted for= relaying, NAV for Gateways can be used to prevent the relaying of junk= email (spam) for another host.
=B7Allow all: No restrictions are placed= on relaying messages for external hosts. Email from any remote host can be= relayed through NAV for Gateways.
=B7Allow from listed hosts: Only email= from explicitly named hosts can be relayed to remote hosts.

To use this feature, there must be at least one entry in the Routing List.= The * wildcard can be used to specify allowed hosts as the first element of= a domain name or the last element of an IP address. For example,
*.someplace.com
nnn.nnn.nnn.*

(I am not using this in part because i suspect this would not work with= alias/list users - any thoughts?
would someone sending from SNET account, with user at AllowedDomain dot com as= return address but real/x-sender is user at snet dot net, be allowed to send to= user at aol dot com?)
 
------------------
>ben at atomicusa dot com also wrote:
>I am working on relay security measures right now. What's the benefit of=
>using NAV for Gateways? What does it do exactly? How is it different=
>than NAV corp edition?

don't know which product that is exactly, but i'm guessing there is a lot of= overlap. from reading the info on many products, it is tough to tell what= distinguishes some products from others. none of the online info about NAV= for gateways seems to mention the above external relay feature.
check their e= nterprise list of software.

NAV listens and replaces WM on the standard SMTP port 25, scans all incoming= mail before passing it on to WM, now set to listen on different port, for= it's usual delivery.
----------------

Ferris



From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Protocol Trace and Terminal Services
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 20:49:44 +0100

I think that TS is preventing the user specific application (ISOTRACE) from
accessing data from the services (possibly because this would be a violation
within a multi-user systems that TS tries to make).
Is there a way under TS to mark an application as "root"?

Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: John Coonrod [mailto:jc at thp dot org]
Sent: 30 September 2001 17:29
To: Ferris Hall; worldmail at lists.pensive dot org
Subject: Re: Protocol Trace and Terminal Services


The freeware program VNC seems to me to be much faster than PCAnywhere. We
use it to manage our servers.

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 9/30/2001 at 11:46 AM Ferris Hall wrote:

>I connect to my W2K box remotely via Terminal Services (running in remote
>administration mode) - works great and MUCH faster than PCAnywhere.
>I notice that the Protocol Trace does not work with terminal services -
>the
>trace window remains blank.
>(The only thing I can get to show up in TS are the tests, which in both
>connections returns:
>11:17:16.14: [3164] TPI: TransportStart - device
>11:17:16.14: [3164] TPI: cannot open service 'ISOSTACK.' error 1060
>this is not a problem, just the only thing i can get to show up)
>
>Trace works fine via PCAnywhere. Any thoughts? (Not familiar enough with
>TS
>to know how it's sessions might separate system processes...?)
>
>Thanks for the third time, Ferris
>---
>Ferris Hall
>Blue Crown Productions





Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 22:17:23 -0400
From: Ferris Hall <ferris at ferrishall dot com>
Subject: no udpates
At 08:55 PM 9/30/2001, Katie Percy wrote:
Thanks for your informative postings, they dovetail well with research we're doing into relays & also nav enterprise + gateway protection.

You suggest that WorldMail is end-of-life -- can you give more detail?  Also I'd be curious what you'd recommend to someone starting out now.  We've had good luck with wm but obviously it's not morphing to meet these challenges.
Thanks,
Katie Percy
Fred Finch Youth Center
---------
Your very welcome and thank you.
I'd recommend the archives of this list, as the question of WM ever being updated has been addressed, but I don't see the http://www.pensive.org/  web site up (?). (i like tracert.com to check these things, mostly to answer "no, the server isn't down").

If I recall, someone seemed to have the inside scoop that WM was developed mainly by a team that has long left Qualcomm, and neither has any plans to mess with it. Users are collectively saddened. In it's defense, in 4 years it's never crashed, even after migrating to W2K with, gasp, IIS 5.

As for other mail programs, you'll have to do the research i suspect. i have little experience with them. I have posted this to the group - they have more knowledge than I on other programs.

Autumn has blown into Boston today, and seems to be a busy list day.
Ferris
---
To see the archives of this list, go to
http://www.pensive.org/mailing_lists/Archives/worldmail/index.html

From: "Ben Saren" <ben at atomicusa dot com>
Subject: RE: no udpates
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 22:23:22 -0400

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Well, I can say this much. With a little help from a few of you I
plugged up my server pretty well. I hit some sites, (orbz, abuse.net,
mail-abuse.org etc) and it appears that I tightened things up really
well. 
 
Took some time and effort into narrowing down the IP blocks that my
customers were coming in from, and i just allowed specific ranges. But
before doing so, I checked on those blocks via those sites and found
none of them are blackholed. 
 
So my gut feels much better already... and not being wide open the
world. 
 
Thanks for your help. This was the one piece of WM that was kinda
knocking me upside the head.
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ferris Hall [mailto:ferris at ferrishall dot com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 10:17 PM
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: no udpates


At 08:55 PM 9/30/2001, Katie Percy wrote:
Thanks for your informative postings, they dovetail well with research
we're doing into relays & also nav enterprise + gateway protection.

You suggest that WorldMail is end-of-life -- can you give more detail?
Also I'd be curious what you'd recommend to someone starting out now.
We've had good luck with wm but obviously it's not morphing to meet
these challenges.
Thanks,
Katie Percy
Fred Finch Youth Center
---------
Your very welcome and thank you.
I'd recommend the archives of this list, as the question of WM ever
being updated has been addressed, but I don't see the
http://www.pensive.org/  web site up (?). (i like tracert.com to check
these things, mostly to answer "no, the server isn't down").

If I recall, someone seemed to have the inside scoop that WM was
developed mainly by a team that has long left Qualcomm, and neither has
any plans to mess with it. Users are collectively saddened. In it's
defense, in 4 years it's never crashed, even after migrating to W2K
with, gasp, IIS 5.

As for other mail programs, you'll have to do the research i suspect. i
have little experience with them. I have posted this to the group - they
have more knowledge than I on other programs.

Autumn has blown into Boston today, and seems to be a busy list day.
Ferris
---
To see the archives of this list, go to 
http://www.pensive.org/mailing_lists/Archives/worldmail/index.html



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color=#0000ff size=2>Well, 
I can say this much. With a little help from a few of you I plugged up 
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color=#0000ff size=2>Took 
some time and effort into narrowing down the IP blocks that my customers 
were 
coming in from, and i just allowed specific ranges. But before doing so, 
I 
checked on those blocks via those sites and found none of them are 
blackholed. 
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gut feels much better already... and not being wide open the world. 
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kinda 
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  face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
Ferris Hall 
  [mailto:ferris at ferrishall dot com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 30, 
2001 
  10:17 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Subscribers of WorldMail<BR><B>Subject:</B> no 
  udpates<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>At 08:55 PM 9/30/2001, Katie Percy 
  wrote:<BR>Thanks for your informative postings, they dovetail well 
with 
  research we're doing into relays &amp; also nav enterprise + gateway 
  protection.<BR><BR>You suggest that WorldMail is end-of-life -- can 
you give 
  more detail?&nbsp; Also I'd be curious what you'd recommend to someone 

  starting out now.&nbsp; We've had good luck with wm but obviously it's 
not 
  morphing to meet these challenges.<BR>Thanks,<BR>Katie Percy<BR>Fred 
Finch 
  Youth Center<BR>---------<BR>Your very welcome and thank you.<BR>I'd 
recommend 
  the archives of this list, as the question of WM ever being updated 
has been 
  addressed, but I don't see the <A href="http://www.pensive.org/" 
  eudora="autourl">http://www.pensive.org/</A>&nbsp; web site up (?). 
(i like 
  tracert.com to check these things, mostly to answer "no, the server 
isn't 
  down").<BR><BR>If I recall, someone seemed to have the inside scoop 
that WM 
  was developed mainly by a team that has long left Qualcomm, and 
neither has 
  any plans to mess with it. Users are collectively saddened. In it's 
defense, 
  in 4 years it's <B>never </B>crashed, even after migrating to W2K 
with, gasp, 
  IIS 5.<BR><BR>As for other mail programs, you'll have to do the 
research i 
  suspect. i have little experience with them. I have posted this to the 
group - 
  they have more knowledge than I on other programs.<BR><BR>Autumn has 
blown 
  into Boston today, and seems to be a busy list 
day.<BR>Ferris<BR>---<BR>To see 
  the archives of this list, go to <BR><FONT color=#0000ff><U><A 
  

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From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 07:07:42 -0500
Subject: Re: no udpates

serverwatch.com is a good source of articles for server software.  Althought they 
consider major or well known software they miss some good less common programs 
worth the look.

Since I use pegasus mail client written by David Harris (pmail.com), I hear a lot of 
praises about Mercury, their smtp server.  It's full of options and can be customized 
quite a bit.  I don't use it but it's worth a look.



On 30 Sep 2001 at 22:17, Ferris Hall wrote:

At 08:55 PM 9/30/2001, Katie Percy wrote:
Thanks for your informative postings, they dovetail well with research we're doing into 
relays & also nav enterprise + gateway protection.

You suggest that WorldMail is end-of-life -- can you give more detail?Also I'd be 
curious what you'd recommend to someone starting out now. We've had good luck 
with wm but obviously it's not morphing to meet these challenges.
Thanks,
Katie Percy
Fred Finch Youth Center
---------
Your very welcome and thank you.
I'd recommend the archives of this list, as the question of WM ever being updated has 
been addressed, but I don't see the http://www.pensive.org/ web site up (?). (i like 
tracert.com to check these things, mostly to answer "no, the server isn't down").

If I recall, someone seemed to have the inside scoop that WM was developed mainly 
by a team that has long left Qualcomm, and neither has any plans to mess with it. 
Users are collectively saddened. In it's defense, in 4 years it's never crashed, even 
after migrating to W2K with, gasp, IIS 5.

As for other mail programs, you'll have to do the research i suspect. i have little 
experience with them. I have posted this to the group - they have more knowledge than 
I on other programs.

Autumn has blown into Boston today, and seems to be a busy list day.
Ferris
---
To see the archives of this list, go to 
http://www.pensive.org/mailing_lists/Archives/worldmail/index.html






Elliott Bujan
Help Desk / MIS - Rentokil, TPS - USA
ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
www.rentokil-tps.com




From: "lostworld" <support at lostworld dot ws>
Subject: mail stuck in queue NT4 sp6a
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:05:52 -0400

Hi
I'm new to the list forgive me if this has been answered before, I have not
found it in the archives as of yet. My server was hit with the nimda virus a
couple of weeks ago, I cleaned the system with Mcafee netshield 4.5 after
the system was cleaned, all mail to outbound servers are stuck in the queue,
the smtp log reports "dns server temporarily unavailable" I verified in the
registry that two nameserver ip addresses are configured. using the
nameserver test utility, on the general tab, configured nameserver is listed
only asd "host.domain.com" I have uninstalled dns, tcp/ip, and worldmail but
I cannot get worldmail to read the dns server information. Temporarily I
have used telnet to connect to the mail server and temporarily used the
namserver add command to add the nameservers to the cache so the outbound
mail can be processed. This will work until the server is rebooted, then
I'll have to manually add them again. Does anyone know a fix?
Thanks
Glenn Skinner


From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 08:32:17 -0500
Subject: Worldmail and Message Labs

Is someone using message labs and worldmail?

Elliott




Elliott Bujan
MIS Dept. - Rentokil, TPS
847.634.4250  .x281  - www.rentokil-tps.com

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Cédric_Daimo?= <daimo at praxim dot fr>
Subject: 8888 under proxy
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 15:47:36 +0200

Hi !

I want to manage user account via a browser (with port 8888)
Worldmail is install on a W2000 server in a DMZ
The firewall (isa server 2000) is on a W2000 server
I access to worldmail server from a browser, (www.xxx.com:8888/Qpam.htm)
I fill username and password and when i submit, i've got a login failed
windows error with unknown error

It works fine directly under Worldmail server !

It is a java applet problem, a DNS problem , a proxy problem ?
How can i resolve this ?

Thanks a lot !




From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Cédric_Daimo?= <daimo at praxim dot fr>
Subject: Manage user account via browser and proxy
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:05:26 +0200

Hi !

I want to manage user account via a browser (with port 8888)
Worldmail is install on a W2000 server in a DMZ
The firewall (isa server 2000) is on a W2000 server
I access to worldmail server from a browser, (www.xxx.com:8888/Qpam.htm)
I fill username and password and when i submit, i've got a "login failed
windows error" with unknown error

It works fine directly under Worldmail server !

It is a java applet problem, a DNS problem , a proxy problem ?
How can i resolve this ?

Thanks a lot !




From: "Nelix, Inc." <matt at deep-thought dot com>
Subject: Open Relay
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:19:14 -0500

Is there anyway to close Relays for everbody outside our network excluding
people sending e-mails to aliases?

When I close my relays, anybody sending e-mail to an alias also gets
bounced.

Any ideas on this one?

Matt


From: "Jason Davidson" <jdavidson at crousebeers dot com>
Subject: RE: Open Relay
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:12:04 -0700

Matt:

This is a known bug with WorldMail.  Closing open relays will also stop your
aliases from functioning.  The workaround is recreate the aliases as a one
member distribution list.

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: Nelix, Inc. [mailto:matt at deep-thought dot com]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 9:19 AM
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Open Relay


Is there anyway to close Relays for everbody outside our network excluding
people sending e-mails to aliases?

When I close my relays, anybody sending e-mail to an alias also gets
bounced.

Any ideas on this one?

Matt



From: "lostworld" <support at lostworld dot ws>
Subject: nameserver resolution issue with worldmail
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 16:06:46 -0400

Has anyone run across this problem, I'm running worldmail 2.0 on a NT4 box
with sp6a any ip address entered in the nameserver search list on the DNS
tab of the tcpip properties is resolved by worldmail as host.domain.com and
as a result worldmail cannot forward or relay outgoing mail. Under a dos
prompt ping will resolve the nameservers and the browser on this server
resolves names as well. If I edit the tcpip registry entry and insert the
nameserver names instead of ip addresses. worldmail will then resolve dns
and forward outgoing mail, but the browser and ping functions no longer work
on this server. It doesn't matter what nameserver ip address I enter, mine
or someone else's, worldmail resolves them all to host.domain.com.
This problem first developed after a virus hit the server, but I have since
created a new server on a different domain and I am getting the same
results. If I delete all domains in worldmail and reboot, worldmail
recognizes the ip address as the nameserver and resolves dns. But if I add a
domain back in and reboot, I am back to the host.domain.com. Any
suggestions?
Thanks
Glenn Skinner


From: bennya at totallyhip dot com (Benny Au-Young)
Subject: Having problems with DNS
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 16:43:38 -0700

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Hi,

I have setup the Worldmail Email server on a machine which I am using as 
our email server.
The DNS is hosted on another machine.  

I have set everything up properly the other server (as far as I can see 
anyways.).  The Mail Exchanger and the Address record has been setup.

I have the machine I am using pointing to the proper DNS server.  I know 
that should work since I got the website setup for them already.

However,  when I use the Domain Name Server Function dialog to check MX 
Record, Address, C Name, Name server, etc.

it says that the DNS is not responding.

Has anyone come across this problem before?

Benny

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have setup the Worldmail Email server 
on a 
machine which I am using as our email server.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The DNS is hosted on another 
machine.&nbsp; 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have set everything up properly the 
other server 
(as far as I can see anyways.).&nbsp; The Mail Exchanger and the Address 
record 
has been setup.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have the machine I am using pointing 
to the 
proper DNS server.&nbsp; I know that should work since I got the website 
setup 
for them already.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>However,&nbsp; when I use the Domain 
Name Server 
Function dialog to check MX Record, Address, C Name, Name server, 
etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>it says that the DNS is not 
responding.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Has anyone come across this problem 
before?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Benny</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: nameserver resolution issue with worldmail
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 22:37:59 +0100

Time for good old ISOTRACE again I think.

Stop SMTPD and IMSD - start ISOTRACE.EXE and enabled verbose tracing - and
record to file.
Then start SMTPD
and see what it says - it reports DNS info at the start
Repeat this process with your different registry settings and lets see if we
can work out what is going on.

Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: lostworld [mailto:support at lostworld dot ws]
Sent: 22 October 2001 21:07
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: nameserver resolution issue with worldmail


Has anyone run across this problem, I'm running worldmail 2.0 on a NT4 box
with sp6a any ip address entered in the nameserver search list on the DNS
tab of the tcpip properties is resolved by worldmail as host.domain.com and
as a result worldmail cannot forward or relay outgoing mail. Under a dos
prompt ping will resolve the nameservers and the browser on this server
resolves names as well. If I edit the tcpip registry entry and insert the
nameserver names instead of ip addresses. worldmail will then resolve dns
and forward outgoing mail, but the browser and ping functions no longer work
on this server. It doesn't matter what nameserver ip address I enter, mine
or someone else's, worldmail resolves them all to host.domain.com.
This problem first developed after a virus hit the server, but I have since
created a new server on a different domain and I am getting the same
results. If I delete all domains in worldmail and reboot, worldmail
recognizes the ip address as the nameserver and resolves dns. But if I add a
domain back in and reboot, I am back to the host.domain.com. Any
suggestions?
Thanks
Glenn Skinner



From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Having problems with DNS
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:23:20 +0100

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If you are running Worldmail on Win2K machine then there is a known problem.
Microsoft changed the location in the registry where DNS information is kept
... so the techniques that Worldmail uses to find DNS didn't work any more.
The work around is documented on Qualcomm site - but basically you put the
old registry keys back by hand and remember to keep them in step with your
DNS set-up.

If running on NT4 - then take a look at ISOTRACE output when starting up
SMTPD - see my previous email on similar subject.

Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Benny Au-Young [mailto:bennya at totallyhip dot com]
Sent: 23 October 2001 00:44
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Having problems with DNS


Hi,

I have setup the Worldmail Email server on a machine which I am using as our
email server.
The DNS is hosted on another machine.

I have set everything up properly the other server (as far as I can see
anyways.).  The Mail Exchanger and the Address record has been setup.

I have the machine I am using pointing to the proper DNS server.  I know
that should work since I got the website setup for them already.

However,  when I use the Domain Name Server Function dialog to check MX
Record, Address, C Name, Name server, etc.

it says that the DNS is not responding.

Has anyone come across this problem before?

Benny

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<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><SPAN class=507182007-23102001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>If you 
are running Worldmail on Win2K machine then there is a known 
problem.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=507182007-23102001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 

size=2>Microsoft changed the location in the registry where DNS 
information is 
kept ... so the techniques that Worldmail uses to find DNS didn't work 
any 
more.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=507182007-23102001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>The 
work around is documented on Qualcomm site - but basically you put the 
old 
registry keys back by hand and remember to keep them in step with your 
DNS 
set-up.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=507182007-23102001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 

size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=507182007-23102001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>If 
running on NT4 - then take a look at ISOTRACE output when starting up 
SMTPD - 
see my previous email on similar subject.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=507182007-23102001></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=507182007-23102001></SPAN><SPAN 
class=507182007-23102001><FONT 
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Paul</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Benny Au-Young 
[mailto:bennya at totallyhip dot com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 23 October 2001 
00:44<BR><B>To:</B> Subscribers of WorldMail<BR><B>Subject:</B> Having 
problems 
with DNS<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have setup the Worldmail Email server 
on a 
machine which I am using as our email server.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The DNS is hosted on another 
machine.&nbsp; 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have set everything up properly the 
other server 
(as far as I can see anyways.).&nbsp; The Mail Exchanger and the Address 
record 
has been setup.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have the machine I am using pointing 
to the 
proper DNS server.&nbsp; I know that should work since I got the website 
setup 
for them already.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>However,&nbsp; when I use the Domain 
Name Server 
Function dialog to check MX Record, Address, C Name, Name server, 
etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>it says that the DNS is not 
responding.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Has anyone come across this problem 
before?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Benny</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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From: "lostworld" <support at lostworld dot ws>
Subject: DNS issue resolved!
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:49:37 -0400

I want to thank everyone for your input,
I've pinned down the source of my DNS resolution problems. It seems my
internet provider, Network Access Solutions two or three weeks ago changed
their DNS structure setting EVERY ip address they own on a reverse lookup to
the default value "host.domain.com" After ruling out the DNS on my system, I
called their support and they knew of the change and the new default
setting. I had to give them a list of my server names so they could change
their records to reflect the correct server names. Once parsed this will
eliminate my DNS issue on the worldmail server.
It was so nice of my provider to institute this policy without any
notice........

Glenn Skinner



Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:46:15 -0400
From: Ferris Hall <ferris at ferrishall dot com>
Subject: automated relay test?

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hello all,
i see worldmail has a message in queue going to
postmaster at rattler.qualcomm dot com
subject: mail.ferrishall.com relay check

it also seems that worldmail has generated this message - it certainly is a 
surprise to me.
a bit concerned that WM is sending mail without my knowledge, although the 
purpose seems noble. just wish i knew it was testing itself, or that 
qualcomm had this check running in the background.
many thanks, ferris 
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:24:54 -0400
From: Ferris Hall <ferris at ferrishall dot com>
Subject: automated relay test - with images

the list server does not seem to support attachments.
the two gifs with queue details can be found at
www.ferrishall.com/wm

thanks

--
...a bit concerned that WM is sending mail without my knowledge, although 
the purpose seems noble. just wish i knew it was testing itself, or that 
qualcomm had this check running in the background.
many thanks, ferris 


From: "Paul Lucente" <plucente at hypotenuse dot com>
Subject: Distro list oddity
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:37:09 -0400

I recently decided to take one of my distro lists and move it to another
domain, really for the sake of hygiene more than anything, and found the
following problem.

I tried to select all the names in the old distro list, and then simply copy
and paste them into the new one.  This worked for the most part, except that
on visual inspection, I noticed some names were missing.

When I went back and tried to copy 1 of the missing names individually, it
tells me "no users selected" when I hit "copy."

This happens for about 6-7 names, all the rest work fine.  I cannot find any
common thread to the names, and when I originally added them, I had no
problems.

Paul



Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 19:40:12 +0000
From: ian <ian at impeccable.org dot uk>
Subject: Different routes for different folks

I have got to the bottom of the problem I have been having with mail
being refused by some servers. I had thought I had been put on the RBL
list, but I hadn't. However the problem seems to stem from me having
WorldMail as my outgoing mail server in my various mail clients. When I
changed the mail server in, say, Netscape Messenger to my ISP's smtp
server mail started being accepted again.

Unfortunately this has one major drawback. When I want to send a message
within my metwork it still goes via my ISP. Not a major problem but
unnecessary traffic. My question: is there a way I can configure
WorldMail so that messages within my network go via WorldMail's smtp
server, and other traffic goes via my ISP's smtp server?

Any guidance much appreciated.


Ian.
--
Ian Piper
www.impeccable.org.uk

From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:32:48 -0600
Subject: Cannot subscribe to a dist list using Jmail

I have this web form so our users can subscribe to a distribution list.
The form works ok using w3 Jmail, when sending a test subscription message to my 
mail box but when I send it to the dist-request@ dot com I get this error

"Command to be processed: subscribe rtpathome ebujan@rentokil-tps=2Ecom
The command did not complete successfully
Command to be processed: STOP 
Aborting further processing of mail message
"

If I redirect the email address to my box I get 
"Command to be processed: subscribe rtpathome ebujan@rentokil-tps dot com"
but when I send it to the mail server I get "tps=2Ecom" which invalids the command

I even display my variables on screen and they all look right.
I can send you the code to send the message, nothing out of this world

Any suggestions?







Elliott Bujan
Help Desk / MIS - Rentokil, TPS - USA
ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
www.rentokil-tps.com






Elliott Bujan
MIS Dept. - Rentokil, TPS
847.634.4250  .x281  - www.rentokil-tps.com


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From: Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
Subject: Re: Antivirus Software
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 23:17:40 -0800

We were discussing e-mail antivirus software a while ago, and some of us 
were
discussing alternatives for possible -cheap- antivirus software. Well, I 
got
it all working, with smoke and mirrors and baling wire, and I've been 
meaning
to report back. Here's the recipe, such as it is.

1) Bought the consumer-grade Norton Antivirus 2002, on eBay. It includes
e-mail handling that transparently intercepts *client* requests on port 
25 or
port 110 that occur on interface 127.0.0.1, i.e., the local machine. It 
does
this trick by intercepting things one Windows level beneath the socket 
layer.
I forget the name of that API. Note that this is very different, and 
cleaner,
from the way NAV 2001 worked, which was at the socket layer.

2) The significance of the interception mechanism is that only mail 
clients
that are running locally receive protection. So, I applied a proxy server
 I
already had (an old free copy of Wingate) to bounce server requests for 
port
110 that come in on my Internet interface into being client requests 
going
out on port 110 on the 127.0.0.1 interface. Thus triggering the Norton
Antivirus for external clients as well as local clients. Cool. Note that 
you
need a proxy server that allows you to specify a particular interface --
otherwise, you'll have too many socket listeners on port 110. Which makes
 my
Windows 2000 do strange things.

3) Arranged, via a startup script, that Norton (specifically, 
navapw32.exe)
would always get started *after* the Wingate proxy server. Otherwise my
Windows 2000 would do strange things.

4) Now the hard part. When NAV finally actually intercepts a virus, it 
puts
up a dialog box and sits and waits for a human being to click OK. All 
e-mail
stops until OK is clicked. There is no timeout on the dialog, there is no
 way
(that I found) to disable the dialog. I looked for macro programs that 
could
click the OK automatically. Most were not powerful enough. Finally, 
something
called "Quick Macros", by Gintaras Didzgalvis, from www.download.com for
free, was able to do the trick. The final macro was 
	act +CWebWindow_Class
	3
	act +CWebWindow_Class
	Af
triggering on 
	!+CWebWindow_Class

(Don't ask what all that means.) 



Long and short: I was able to add full self-updating virus checking,
including attachments, to Worldmail for a net cost of $15.50 (for NAV, 
from
eBay, after rebate.) The virus checking is even multithreaded. Such a 
deal!

Cautions: NAV runs extremely slowly when processing e-mail - one 250KB
attachment may take 45 seconds for it to process. I have no idea what 
it's
doing with all that CPU time. Also note that the entire setup grinds to a
halt if a virus is encountered and the macro program misses on its dialog
acknowledgement. So I wouldn't recommend this setup for a real production
Worldmail system.

I hope that this is all of interest and of help to someone.

Garry

Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 09:12:06 -0500
From: Ann Compton <acompton at nationaloptronics dot com>
Subject: Connection Establishment Timeout

New to the list.

I have one user outside our building who uses our Mail Server.  We 
periodically get Connection Establishment Timeout.  What could be causing this?

Thanks.

Ann Compton


From: "Tom Kemp" <KempT at presearch dot com>
Subject: RE: Connection Establishment Timeout
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:53:36 -0500

What email client?  They may need to change their 'Server Timeout' 
section (As it is in Outlook) to a longer wait.  The default in Outlook 
is 1 minute.  Try setting it to 2.5 minutes.  That should clear up most 
timeouts.  Because they are coming across the Internet, there are more 
delays along the way, so timeouts occur.

If it's not as simple as that, perhaps your DNS servers of choice for 
your ISP or your domain are too slow responding.

Today, I have noticed, the Internet is running extremely slow.  I'm not 
sure of the cause, but usually when it happens, it's because some major 
branch somewhere is down, and hopefully under repair.

Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom Kemp)
MCSE/CCNAv2/Program Manager
Control Concepts, Inc.
703-876-6418
Fax:  703-876-6416
KempT at controlconceptsinc dot com

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Compton [mailto:acompton at nationaloptronics dot com]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 9:12 AM
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Connection Establishment Timeout


New to the list.

I have one user outside our building who uses our Mail Server.  We 
periodically get Connection Establishment Timeout.  What could be 
causing this?

Thanks.

Ann Compton


Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 08:39:01 -0800
From: Katie Percy <katiepercy at fredfinch dot org>
Subject: Re: Antivirus Software

We bit the bullet & got NAV corp edition; so far very worth the investment 
because NAV standard required users to upgrade defs & run scans or at least 
accept scheduled events for each and we found a lot of non-compliance with 
that resulting in lots of viruses.

NAV Corp edition is pretty much invisible to users; you can have them have 
scan-on-demand or update-on-demand but you can also just make that happen 
w/o their awareness.  The client can be installed w/login script.

Our only un-ironed wrinkle at the moment is that our mail server is not a 
client; its in the dmz.  So NAV picks up viruses that come thru email when 
they hit the workstation, but we still have to go back and snag them off 
the mail server.

Re price, we did get Symantec to comp us an earlier version of NAV corp a 
couple years ago because we were a non-profit.  They've been very generous 
re donation of software.  We bought this round because we were in shock and 
anxiety from a bad round of NIMBDA and didn't want to wait.


Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 08:38:03 -0800
From: Matt Hemingway <matt at supplyedge dot com>
Subject: Re: Connection Establishment Timeout

I'm assuming the user is using IMAP.  We had this error not too long ago 
with a user,  the fix was to set the server timeout (in Outlook) to 5 
minutes and have it check for mail every 2 minutes (although you could set 
it to any number you'd like before 5 minutes.)  We've only had this problem 
with Outlook 2000 users so must be something related to Outlook and 
unrelated to Worldmail.

-Matt

At 09:12 AM 11/8/2001 -0500, Ann Compton wrote:
>New to the list.
>
>I have one user outside our building who uses our Mail Server.  We 
>periodically get Connection Establishment Timeout.  What could be causing this?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Ann Compton
>



Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 08:59:58 -0800
From: Katie Percy <katiepercy at fredfinch dot org>
Subject: Fwd: Re: Connection Establishment Timeout

Actually I have that problem all the time when I'm travelling far from the 
office, using a Eudora client with PacBell dialup ISP.  Increasing the time 
out doesn't help.  I usually go into a web-mail client like Yahoo mail & 
try to get mail from there, but unfortunately there's no "last message 
read" flag (or something like that, pulling this out of my memory) so I get 
ALL my saved mail.

Kaite Percy, Fred Finch



Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 08:59:49 -0800
From: Matt Hemingway <matt at supplyedge dot com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Connection Establishment Timeout

Interesting.  Are you using POP or IMAP?  Also, what version of Eudora?

-matt

At 08:59 AM 11/8/2001 -0800, Katie Percy wrote:
>Actually I have that problem all the time when I'm travelling far from the 
>office, using a Eudora client with PacBell dialup ISP.  Increasing the 
>time out doesn't help.  I usually go into a web-mail client like Yahoo 
>mail & try to get mail from there, but unfortunately there's no "last 
>message read" flag (or something like that, pulling this out of my memory) 
>so I get ALL my saved mail.
>
>Kaite Percy, Fred Finch
>
>



Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 12:07:31 +1000
From: Greens In Oz! <greens at canada dot com>
Subject: SMTP log analysis

Can anyone suggest some SMTP log analysis software that is compatible with
Worldmail?  I am going a bit cross-eyed going through the logs by hand ...

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Steve



From: "Ben Saren" <ben at atomicusa dot com>
Subject: RE: SMTP log analysis
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:26:57 -0500

I hear that!


-----Original Message-----
From: Greens In Oz! [mailto:greens at canada dot com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 9:08 PM
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: SMTP log analysis


Can anyone suggest some SMTP log analysis software that is compatible
with Worldmail?  I am going a bit cross-eyed going through the logs by
hand ...

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Steve



Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 11:58:41 -0600
From: Postmaster <postmaster at smm dot org>
Subject: Re: Antivirus Software

Hi Katie!
we had implemented the corp norton's also, and have NAV gateway on the
worldmail server,... which seems to work good when you ALSO install the
norton client UNMANAGED, to the mail server in the dmz.
you just have to not have real time scan the queues directory of NAV and
worldmail, for the gateway norton's is taking care of that. also we don't
have it scan web500GW dir. 
there's help on norton's site for all these things and more.
good luck! 

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>
>We bit the bullet & got NAV corp edition; so far very worth the investment 
>because NAV standard required users to upgrade defs & run scans or at least 
>accept scheduled events for each and we found a lot of non-compliance with 
>that resulting in lots of viruses.
>
>NAV Corp edition is pretty much invisible to users; you can have them have 
>scan-on-demand or update-on-demand but you can also just make that happen 
>w/o their awareness.  The client can be installed w/login script.
>
>Our only un-ironed wrinkle at the moment is that our mail server is not a 
>client; its in the dmz.  So NAV picks up viruses that come thru email when 
>they hit the workstation, but we still have to go back and snag them off 
>the mail server.
>
>Re price, we did get Symantec to comp us an earlier version of NAV corp a 
>couple years ago because we were a non-profit.  They've been very generous 
>re donation of software.  We bought this round because we were in shock and 
>anxiety from a bad round of NIMBDA and didn't want to wait.
>
>


Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 12:27:31 -0600
From: Postmaster <postmaster at smm dot org>
Subject: Deleting Old Users from Lists

does anyone know a way to keep the mail server from replying to these
unreply-able lists that a user doesn't exist anymore? i know it would be
good measure if everyone who ever changes jobs could get out of all their
subscription lists, but it doesn't always happen. is there some setting
somewhere that i'm missing? i've looked at almost all the archives and
havent' found any problems like this listed. thanks!



Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:27:00 -0600
From: JD West <jdwest at discoverynet dot com>
Subject: Worldmail 2.0 Anti-Relaying Problem

We are running Worldmail 2.0 on a Windows 2000 box.

To prevent message relaying, we have added only acceptable IP's to the
"Message Relaying" tab under Security for Internet Mail.

We thought everything was fine, but it appears this setting has no
effect on who Eudora will actually accept mail from.

As a result, we are now blacklisted as a SPAM RELAY, and some ISP's are
blocking our mail. 

As a test, I even manually excluded an IP address, and then sent a test
message from that PC, and it went out fine. It doesn't seem to have any
relay prevention enabled whatsoever.

Is this a known issue? Is there some flag that must be set somewhere to
enable this list to be checked?

Any help would be appreciated..


Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:34:31 -0800
From: LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
Subject: Re: Worldmail 2.0 Anti-Relaying Problem

I had a similar incident 2 weeks ago. The reason why our Worldmail server 
was not able to prevent spamming despite of the same steps that you did, 
because we also have McAffee Webshield running on the same server in order 
to check all inbound and outbound emails fro viruses. Webshield is 
installed on this server as a "proxy" server" and it was kind of bypassing 
the Worldmail security settings and to the outside world our email server 
acted like a plain vanilla email server.

I called Worldmail tech-support, they are the ones who told me about this 
behaviour of Webshield. After I configured McAffee Webshield itself for 
antispam, voila, all my problems were gone in a second.

Hope this helps or at least will give you some new ideas.

Geza


At 02:27 PM 11/12/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>We are running Worldmail 2.0 on a Windows 2000 box.
>
>To prevent message relaying, we have added only acceptable IP's to the
>"Message Relaying" tab under Security for Internet Mail.
>
>We thought everything was fine, but it appears this setting has no
>effect on who Eudora will actually accept mail from.
>
>As a result, we are now blacklisted as a SPAM RELAY, and some ISP's are
>blocking our mail.
>
>As a test, I even manually excluded an IP address, and then sent a test
>message from that PC, and it went out fine. It doesn't seem to have any
>relay prevention enabled whatsoever.
>
>Is this a known issue? Is there some flag that must be set somewhere to
>enable this list to be checked?
>
>Any help would be appreciated..



Geza Levai
LAN Administrator
Leidenfrost/Horowitz & Associates
818-246-6050 ext.62
Glendale, CA



Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:50:07 -0500
From: Ann Compton <acompton at nationaloptronics dot com>
Subject: e-mail not leaving server

We use World Mail on NT 4.0, SP6a.  I have a vendor which I deal with 
regularly.  However, I cannot communicate with her via e-mail.  I receive 
her e-mails okay but when I send one to her, it remains in the message queue.

Our ISP provider can send to her as well.  Any ideas why the e-mail is not 
sent?  No help in logs.

Ann Compton


From: "Ben Saren" <ben at atomicusa dot com>
Subject: Re: e-mail not leaving server
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:52:33 -0500

Can you do a tracert or find the MX for her domain from the server or from
worldmail?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Compton" <acompton at nationaloptronics dot com>
To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:50 PM
Subject: e-mail not leaving server


> We use World Mail on NT 4.0, SP6a.  I have a vendor which I deal with
> regularly.  However, I cannot communicate with her via e-mail.  I receive
> her e-mails okay but when I send one to her, it remains in the message
queue.
>
> Our ISP provider can send to her as well.  Any ideas why the e-mail is not
> sent?  No help in logs.
>
> Ann Compton
>
>


Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 08:55:49 -0800
From: Katie Percy <katiepercy at fredfinch dot org>
Subject: printing from "preview"

This is probably a little off-topic, being a client rather than server 
question, but fwiw: I've noticed that in last few weeks if I try to print 
from Eudora in "preview" (i.e., not double clicking to open msg) it will 
only print page header.  Used to print as expected.  Any ideas on 
this?  Client is Eudora Pro 4.2 on a 98 station.  Any chance this is a 
security issue?  We did just install NAV corporate, I wouldn't think it 
would make program-specific changes on the WS but since you can now get 
viruses by simply previewing mail, anything's possible...

Thanks,

Katie Percy
Fred Finch Youth Center


From: "Matt Schwartz" <matt at deep-thought dot com>
Subject: wierd alias problems
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 00:12:06 -0600

I'm having some strange problems:

I have several domains with multiple aliases.  Some aliases go to Message
Store users on the same server, some go to external e-mail addresses.

- I can send directly to any message store user without a problem (using the
Eudora Worldmail server as the outgoing SMTP.)
- I can send to any of the aliases to other message store users on the
worldmail server, no problem.
- I can send directly to any external user, no problem.
- From an external mail server, I can send in to any of the aliases, no
problem.

BUT when I try to send to an alias that points to an external mail user,
using the Worldmail server as the outgoing SMTP server, the e-mail message
disappears.

So, if mail.domain.com is my worldmail server, and I have an alias to an aol
address (say aol at domain dot com).  Using mail.domain.com as my SMTP server, I
can send directly to the AOL address, but not using the alias.    I can send
to the alias and the message goes through, if I use an SMTP server off of
our network.

This is a big problem for me, but I can't figure out what could have caused
it, or how to resolve it.  Does anybody have any ideas?

Thanks for the help.

Sincerely,
Matt Schwartz


-------------------------------------------
Excellence on the Internet

Matthew J. Schwartz
Nelix, Inc.
www.nelix.com
matt at nelix dot com
847-781-9186
847-781-9283 fax



Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:27:15 -0600
From: Christine Bremer <cbremer at smm dot org>
Subject: Re: WorldMail digest 27 Nov 2001

we set this scenario up with an alias, that points to a distribution list, that
has that outside address in it. that seems to work good!

WorldMail list wrote:

> Topics covered in this issue include:
>
>   1. wierd alias problems
>        "Matt Schwartz" <matt at deep-thought dot com>
>        Mon, 26 Nov 2001 00:12:06 -0600
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: "Matt Schwartz" <matt at deep-thought dot com>
> Subject: wierd alias problems
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 00:12:06 -0600
>
> I'm having some strange problems:
>
> I have several domains with multiple aliases.  Some aliases go to Message
> Store users on the same server, some go to external e-mail addresses.
>
> - I can send directly to any message store user without a problem (using the
> Eudora Worldmail server as the outgoing SMTP.)
> - I can send to any of the aliases to other message store users on the
> worldmail server, no problem.
> - I can send directly to any external user, no problem.
> - From an external mail server, I can send in to any of the aliases, no
> problem.
>
> BUT when I try to send to an alias that points to an external mail user,
> using the Worldmail server as the outgoing SMTP server, the e-mail message
> disappears.
>
> So, if mail.domain.com is my worldmail server, and I have an alias to an aol
> address (say aol at domain dot com).  Using mail.domain.com as my SMTP server, I
> can send directly to the AOL address, but not using the alias.    I can send
> to the alias and the message goes through, if I use an SMTP server off of
> our network.
>
> This is a big problem for me, but I can't figure out what could have caused
> it, or how to resolve it.  Does anybody have any ideas?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Sincerely,
> Matt Schwartz
>
> -------------------------------------------
> Excellence on the Internet
>
> Matthew J. Schwartz
> Nelix, Inc.
> www.nelix.com
> matt at nelix dot com
> 847-781-9186
> 847-781-9283 fax
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------


From: "Chris Lander" <chris at altuscorp dot com>
Subject: Changing IP Address
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:13:06 -0800

I need to the change the IP Address of my WorldMail Server (running on W2K)
this weekend. Is there anything special I need to do? Or anything I should
watch out for?

I checked Eudora's knowledge base, but didn't find anything relevant. So,
hopefully I'll be in the clear...

+---------------------------------------------------------+
Chris Lander                   Altus Learning Systems, Inc.
chris at altuscorp dot com                          (408) 210-7409
+---------------------------------------------------------+
  PGP: 7495 24C2 D383 CF7B 1AA3  2788 4F5D ACE1 AC15 9FDD


From: "Chris Lander" <chris at altuscorp dot com>
Subject: RE: wierd alias problems
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 08:56:29 -0800

Do you have relaying restrictions in effect? If so, that will cause aliases
that point to an outside e-mail address to break. Take a look at this tech
note:
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1891hq.html

The solution is to replace your aliases with single-user distribution lists.

+---------------------------------------------------------+
Chris Lander                   Altus Learning Systems, Inc.
chris at altuscorp dot com                          (408) 210-7409
+---------------------------------------------------------+
  PGP: 7495 24C2 D383 CF7B 1AA3  2788 4F5D ACE1 AC15 9FDD

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Schwartz [mailto:matt at deep-thought dot com]
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 22:12
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: wierd alias problems


I'm having some strange problems:

I have several domains with multiple aliases.  Some aliases go to Message
Store users on the same server, some go to external e-mail addresses.

- I can send directly to any message store user without a problem (using the
Eudora Worldmail server as the outgoing SMTP.)
- I can send to any of the aliases to other message store users on the
worldmail server, no problem.
- I can send directly to any external user, no problem.
- From an external mail server, I can send in to any of the aliases, no
problem.

BUT when I try to send to an alias that points to an external mail user,
using the Worldmail server as the outgoing SMTP server, the e-mail message
disappears.

So, if mail.domain.com is my worldmail server, and I have an alias to an aol
address (say aol at domain dot com).  Using mail.domain.com as my SMTP server, I
can send directly to the AOL address, but not using the alias.    I can send
to the alias and the message goes through, if I use an SMTP server off of
our network.

This is a big problem for me, but I can't figure out what could have caused
it, or how to resolve it.  Does anybody have any ideas?

Thanks for the help.

Sincerely,
Matt Schwartz


-------------------------------------------
Excellence on the Internet

Matthew J. Schwartz
Nelix, Inc.
www.nelix.com
matt at nelix dot com
847-781-9186
847-781-9283 fax



Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:58:52 -0600 (CST)
From: <tech at kwur.wustl dot edu>
Subject: All IMAP messages for a single user lost!

I've been running Worldmail v2.0 for about 3years on an NT Server 4.0
machine, relatively w/o problem, when suddenly one of the users (of 35)
lost his entire IMAP message store.  That is, after a reboot, the user
logged in and found his personal IMAP folders and their contents gone.
This coincides with the server (the entire machine, that is, not just
Worldmail) becoming unstable and locking up frequently, on the order of
several times a day.

This appears to affect only one user, though he is not the only one who
keeps an IMAP message store, yet his was by far the largest (about 21MB
worth, organized into approx 50 folders).

The actual message files and directory are still physically there in the
user's MailDir, but Worldmail simply doesn't see them anymore.  The only
relevant error message that appeared in the Event Viewer is this:

Source: Worldmail.SMTP
Description: missing submission envelope originator

..which didn't appear on subsequent reboots.

I'm not sure if this because that user happened to have an IMAP session
open when the machine locked up, or if an IMAP transaction was interrupted
at the worst possible point, but the end effect is that Worldmail lost
track of all his mesages.

Does anyone know of a way to recover these messages?  The message files
are still there, so I guess whatever indexing that Worldmail maintains got
munged.  Are these message files in some sort of widely recognized format,
such that I could copy them into the MailDir of another IMAP server
(Courier-IMAP for Linux, for example) and have them recovered?

Many thanks.

-- 
Ben West
Licensed Geek
KWUR 90.3 FM
tech at kwur.wustl dot edu



From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Changing IP Address
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 07:50:46 -0000

Changing IP address should be OK.
Changing machine name can be more difficult I think.
Don't forget to check for any restrictions that may be set-up based on IP
address.

In any case = it would be a good idea to back-up the databases - plus
generate an ASCII config dump.

Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Lander [mailto:chris at altuscorp dot com]
Sent: 28 November 2001 00:13
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Changing IP Address


I need to the change the IP Address of my WorldMail Server (running on W2K)
this weekend. Is there anything special I need to do? Or anything I should
watch out for?

I checked Eudora's knowledge base, but didn't find anything relevant. So,
hopefully I'll be in the clear...

+---------------------------------------------------------+
Chris Lander                   Altus Learning Systems, Inc.
chris at altuscorp dot com                          (408) 210-7409
+---------------------------------------------------------+
  PGP: 7495 24C2 D383 CF7B 1AA3  2788 4F5D ACE1 AC15 9FDD



From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: All IMAP messages for a single user lost!
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:04:24 -0000

The files are in a format of their own - however, there is a file per
message and a sub-directory per folder.  First step ... make a backup ...

I am not sure which version of the underlying software introduced a "rebuild
mailbox" command - quite possibly after Worldmail.
From memory - there is an index file in root of users mailbox - that
contains info about the messages and folders at root level.  If you deleted
this then the root level messages (but not folders) would be rebuilt on next
POP3/IMAP4 login by user - so don't delete the index file.

To investigate further .... turn on ISOTRACE (run the exe) and enable full
tracing on the mailbox processor (IMSD) - then have that user login [ideally
only that user] - and see what it says.
[you can make ISOTRACE send output to file as well as screen]

Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: tech at kwur.wustl.edu [mailto:tech at kwur dot wustl dot edu]
Sent: 29 November 2001 02:59
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: All IMAP messages for a single user lost!


I've been running Worldmail v2.0 for about 3years on an NT Server 4.0
machine, relatively w/o problem, when suddenly one of the users (of 35)
lost his entire IMAP message store.  That is, after a reboot, the user
logged in and found his personal IMAP folders and their contents gone.
This coincides with the server (the entire machine, that is, not just
Worldmail) becoming unstable and locking up frequently, on the order of
several times a day.

This appears to affect only one user, though he is not the only one who
keeps an IMAP message store, yet his was by far the largest (about 21MB
worth, organized into approx 50 folders).

The actual message files and directory are still physically there in the
user's MailDir, but Worldmail simply doesn't see them anymore.  The only
relevant error message that appeared in the Event Viewer is this:

Source: Worldmail.SMTP
Description: missing submission envelope originator

..which didn't appear on subsequent reboots.

I'm not sure if this because that user happened to have an IMAP session
open when the machine locked up, or if an IMAP transaction was interrupted
at the worst possible point, but the end effect is that Worldmail lost
track of all his mesages.

Does anyone know of a way to recover these messages?  The message files
are still there, so I guess whatever indexing that Worldmail maintains got
munged.  Are these message files in some sort of widely recognized format,
such that I could copy them into the MailDir of another IMAP server
(Courier-IMAP for Linux, for example) and have them recovered?

Many thanks.

--
Ben West
Licensed Geek
KWUR 90.3 FM
tech at kwur.wustl dot edu




From: Matt Hemingway <matt at supplyedge dot com>
Subject: Re: All IMAP messages for a single user lost!
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:14:46 -0800

Is there a *.dat file in the user's mailbox folder?

We originally had Worldmail on a Win/2000 server.  Because of the problems 
with LDAP and DNS, we moved Worldmail to an NT server.  When I moved the 
messages over from the 2000 to NT server I didn't move the .dat file (not 
knowing what it is....etc.).  I tried to check the newley moved messages and 
they did not appear.  I than moved the .dat file over, checked the mailbox 
and the messages were there.  Might want to check that.

-Matt


On Wednesday 28 November 2001 18:58, tech at kwur.wustl dot edu wrote:
> I've been running Worldmail v2.0 for about 3years on an NT Server 4.0
> machine, relatively w/o problem, when suddenly one of the users (of 35)
> lost his entire IMAP message store.  That is, after a reboot, the user
> logged in and found his personal IMAP folders and their contents gone.
> This coincides with the server (the entire machine, that is, not just
> Worldmail) becoming unstable and locking up frequently, on the order of
> several times a day.
>
> This appears to affect only one user, though he is not the only one who
> keeps an IMAP message store, yet his was by far the largest (about 21MB
> worth, organized into approx 50 folders).
>
> The actual message files and directory are still physically there in the
> user's MailDir, but Worldmail simply doesn't see them anymore.  The only
> relevant error message that appeared in the Event Viewer is this:
>
> Source: Worldmail.SMTP
> Description: missing submission envelope originator
>
> ..which didn't appear on subsequent reboots.
>
> I'm not sure if this because that user happened to have an IMAP session
> open when the machine locked up, or if an IMAP transaction was interrupted
> at the worst possible point, but the end effect is that Worldmail lost
> track of all his mesages.
>
> Does anyone know of a way to recover these messages?  The message files
> are still there, so I guess whatever indexing that Worldmail maintains got
> munged.  Are these message files in some sort of widely recognized format,
> such that I could copy them into the MailDir of another IMAP server
> (Courier-IMAP for Linux, for example) and have them recovered?
>
> Many thanks.

Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 08:55:20 -0500
From: Gina Senz <gsenz at aium dot org>
Subject: Eudora Dir Services starts/stops

Hello,

Anyone had any problems with Eudora services?  I get the message in Event 
Viewer's Application Log (ISOCOR) that has been mentioned before, but it 
happens about 3x/minute, and at the same time, in System Log, I get a 
message that Eudora's Directory services terminated unexpectedly, and will 
attempt to restart.  We are still getting mail, and are able to send, but 
this fills up both logs in a 24 hour period.  I had thought it had to do 
with NAV for gateways, but we've stopped that service, and are still having 
troubles.  Now I'm beginning to think that it has to do with Webtrends 
(which I just loaded on Wednesday of last week.)  When I try to restart the 
Eudora Directory services, I get a 1067 error (I think), that says the 
service failed to start.  Any suggestions?  Thank you in advance.
gina
.
Gina Senz
MIS Manager
American Institute of Ultrasound in Medicine
14750 Sweitzer Lane, Suite 100
Laurel, MD 20707-5906
www.aium.org
Ph:301-498-4100 Fax: 301-498-4450





From: "Ben Saren" <ben at atomicusa dot com>
Subject: Security hole
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 01:57:03 -0500

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I was trying to get NAV for Gateways to run with Eudora Worldmail, and
was having no luck. I just cant seem to get it right. If anyone has any
experience with this, id love to hear from you.
 
In my search for answers, I came across this. As you will see... at a
reputable site: http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/717380
 
 
 



........................................ 
Ben Saren 
Atomic Enterprises
ben at atomicusa dot com
(781) 665-5036 
 

 

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From: "Sebastian" <sebas at webmaster.com dot sg>
Subject: Win 2000
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:08:35 +0800

Hi there,

does Win 2000 OS support worldmail 2.0?

regards,

Sebastian Quek
Webmaster Internet Services

Address:
470 North Bridge Road
#03-03 Singapore Finance House
Singapore 188735

Tel: 65-254 4601 Fax: 65-358 4386
Email: info at webmaster.com dot sg
URL: http://www.webmaster.com.sg/


From: "Chris Lander" <chris at altuscorp dot com>
Subject: RE: Win 2000
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:38:28 -0800

The answer is sorta, kinda.

You can run WorldMail on Windows 2000 Server (I've been doing it for
months), but there are some registry hacks you need to make first. There's
an article on Eudora's tech support site about it:
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2041hq.html

The article also discusses problems with the management center on the W2K
platform.

+---------------------------------------------------------+
Chris Lander                   Altus Learning Systems, Inc.
chris at altuscorp dot com                          (408) 210-7409
+---------------------------------------------------------+
  PGP: 7495 24C2 D383 CF7B 1AA3  2788 4F5D ACE1 AC15 9FDD

-----Original Message-----
From: Sebastian [mailto:sebas at webmaster.com dot sg]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 23:09
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Win 2000


Hi there,

does Win 2000 OS support worldmail 2.0?

regards,

Sebastian Quek
Webmaster Internet Services

Address:
470 North Bridge Road
#03-03 Singapore Finance House
Singapore 188735

Tel: 65-254 4601 Fax: 65-358 4386
Email: info at webmaster.com dot sg
URL: http://www.webmaster.com.sg/


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