The qpopper list archive ending on 10 Apr 2001


Topics covered in this issue include:

  1. Qpopper 2.53 reverse lookup fails for SOME clients
       PB <bvirtual at westworld dot com>
       Fri, 23 Mar 2001 18:43:09 -0800
  2. Re: Qpopper 2.53 reverse lookup fails for SOME clients
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:40:26 -0800
  3. SSL/TLS Failure
       "James Leckie" <jleckie at mgs.vic.edu dot au>
       Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:11:46 +1000
  4. Multiple downloads
       John Jones <JohnJ at mindquake dot com>
       Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:13:05 -0800
  5. RE: Multiple downloads
       John Jones <JohnJ at mindquake dot com>
       Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:35:34 -0800
  6. Re: Multiple downloads
       "Lisa Casey" <lisa at jellico dot com>
       Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:59:32 -0500
  7. Subfolder downloading...
       tsyap <tsyap at ns1.teamsoftware dot net>
       Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:17:26 -0800 (GMT)
  8. Re: Subfolder downloading...
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:09:45 -0800
  9. spooler directory
       "Isp Wiz" <isp at linkserve.com dot ng>
       Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:02:04 +0100
 10. Re: spooler directory
       Eric Luyten <Eric.Luyten at vub.ac dot be>
       Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:33:03 +0200 (MET DST)
 11. RE: Multiple downloads
       Gustavo Viscaino <g_viscaino at yahoo dot com>
       Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:30:15 -0800 (PST)
 12. RE: Multiple downloads
       Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
       Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:56:48 -0800
 13. RE: Multiple downloads
       Malcolm Kerec <malcolm.kerec at hcn.com dot au>
       Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:18:19 +1000
 14. Re: Multiple downloads
       Torsten Mueller <torsten at archesoft dot de>
       Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:00:48 +0100
 15. Re: Qpopper 2.53 reverse lookup fails for SOME clients
       PB <bvirtual at westworld dot com>
       Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:55:54 -0800
 16. Re: Qpopper 2.53 reverse lookup fails for SOME clients
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Wed, 28 Mar 2001 02:26:20 -0800
 17. Rehat, xinet, and qpopper.
       Ed - Qpopper <qman at brokendown dot net>
       Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:38:21 -0800 (PST)
 18. Re: Rehat, xinet, and qpopper.
       "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed at wcug.wwu dot edu>
       Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:59:53 -0800 (PST)
 19. RE: Redhat, xinet, and qpopper.
       Ed - Qpopper <qman at brokendown dot net>
       Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:42:34 -0800 (PST)
 20. RE: Multiple downloads
       Gustavo Viscaino <g_viscaino at yahoo dot com>
       Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:59:05 -0800 (PST)
 21. Re: Subfolder downloading...
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:02:03 +1200 (NZST)
 22. RE: Multiple downloads
       Magnus Krafft <magnus.krafft at hkv.mil dot se>
       Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:45:03 +0100
 23. Re: Redhat, xinet, and qpopper.
       James Ralston <qralston+ml.qpopper at andrew.cmu dot edu>
       Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:37:43 -0500 (EST)
 24. newbie - I cannot start qpopper
       "Jarek Kaczmarczyk" <eagle at au.poznan dot pl>
       Mon, 2 Apr 2001 08:51:14 +0200
 25. Re: newbie - I cannot start qpopper
       "Armelle Nedelec" <anedelec at inco.com dot lb>
       Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:07:40 +0300
 26.  I cannot start qpopper - It works!!
       "Jarek Kaczmarczyk" <eagle at au.poznan dot pl>
       Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:36:01 +0200
 27. qpopper virtual host patch?
       Padraic Renaghan <list at renaghan dot com>
       Thu, 5 Apr 2001 02:05:36 -0400 (EDT)
 28. qpopper 3.1 that speaks LDAP.
       Peter Evans <peter at gol dot com>
       Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:34:41 +0900
 29. Re: qpopper 3.1 that speaks LDAP.
       Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
       Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:07:09 +0100
 30. Patches to eliminate getpwnams
       Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
       Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:16:16 +0100
 31. performance of qpopper
       robert rotman <rotman at inode dot at>
       Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:32:31 +0200 (CEST)
 32. Re: performance of qpopper
       Peter Evans <peter at gol dot com>
       Sun, 8 Apr 2001 12:41:03 +0900
 33. qpopper and qmail
       "Jordan Snyder" <jordan at digital6 dot net>
       Sun, 8 Apr 2001 16:28:57 -0500
 34. Server Mode ?
       Jack Sasportas <jack at innovativeinternet dot com>
       Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:21:48 -0400
 35. mailboxes LOCK - HELP ME
       Gilberto Dallan <g.dallan at divinanet dot it>
       Mon, 09 Apr 2001 17:53:47 +0200
 36. Re: Patches to eliminate getpwnams
       Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
       Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:40:25 -0700
 37. Re: performance of qpopper
       Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
       Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:43:52 -0700
 38. Re: qpopper and qmail
       Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
       Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:44:59 -0700
 39. Re: Server Mode ?
       Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
       Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:05:54 -0700
 40. Re: mailboxes LOCK - HELP ME
       Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
       Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:07:49 -0700
 41. Re: Patches to eliminate getpwnams
       Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
       Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:27:55 -0700
 42. Re: Server Mode ?
       Gregory Hicks <ghicks at cadence dot com>
       Mon, 9 Apr 2001 12:24:48 -0700 (PDT)
 43. Re: Patches to eliminate getpwnams
       Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
       Mon, 9 Apr 2001 19:05:38 +0100
 44. Re: Patches to eliminate getpwnams
       "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed at wcug.wwu dot edu>
       Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:04:27 -0700 (PDT)
 45. Re: Server Mode ?
       Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
       Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:27:25 -0700
 46. Having problems with my quotas
       Campos Sergio <scampos at mcmtelecom.com dot mx>
       Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:19:42 -0600 
 47. Probems with my quotas
       Campos Sergio <scampos at mcmtelecom.com dot mx>
       Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:31:41 -0600 
 48. Re: Probems with my quotas
       Jack Sasportas <jack at innovativeinternet dot com>
       Mon, 09 Apr 2001 22:21:36 -0400
 49. Max server load
       Frank Beale <fbbeale at richmond.infi dot net>
       Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:19:55 -0400
 50. HASH_SPOOL
       Stuart Errington <StuartErrington at businessserve.co dot uk>
       Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:56:43 +0100

Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 18:43:09 -0800
From: PB <bvirtual at westworld dot com>
Subject: Qpopper 2.53 reverse lookup fails for SOME clients

Why do 3 out 5-10 POP clients get 

Unable to get canonical name of client, err = 0

Ok, one I should upgrade and likely will clear this problem,
two it is not in the FAQ, as some POP clients do not get this
message.  Manually trying nslookup IP# fails.  But works from
remote computers.  I've restarted (not just NOHUP) named twice.
It started on March 19 for my POP attempts.  It had been 
happening for one other client when they added a second 
computer to POP with.  No changes to sendmail or popper
had been made for at least 6 days (March 13).

It comes down to perhaps someone doing an exploit?
popper is in inetd.conf on FreeBSD.

How would I try to clear this condition?


From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:40:26 -0800
Subject: Re: Qpopper 2.53 reverse lookup fails for SOME clients

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 18:43:09 -0800, PB wrote:

>Why do 3 out 5-10 POP clients get 
>Unable to get canonical name of client, err = 0
>Ok, one I should upgrade and likely will clear this problem,

Yes, you should upgrade. 2.53 has exploits.

>two it is not in the FAQ

It's here:

http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/faq.html#canonical

>Manually trying nslookup IP# fails.  But works from
>remote computers.  I've restarted (not just NOHUP) named twice.

It's a DNS issue. qpopper is just doing a reverse lookup, nothing
magic, so if it fails from nslookup, too, then you know it's not
qpopper. If the reverse-DNS works from another machine, then there's
some reason the DNS data can't get from there to your qpopper server.

You could ask on the ISC bind-users mailing list. Be sure to provide
real addresses and names so experts can check your DNS. They skip
messages with obfuscated data.

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
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From: "James Leckie" <jleckie at mgs.vic.edu dot au>
Subject: SSL/TLS Failure
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:11:46 +1000

i have configured qpopper to use a self-signed cert.

everything works mail is transferred but i recieve this error in logs

Mar 26 15:47:59 gateway popper[25918]: connect from 192.168.211.181
Mar 26 15:47:59 gateway popper[25918]: (v4.0b16) TLSv1/SSLv3 handshake with
client at 192.168.211.181 (192.168.211.181); new session-id; cipher: RC4-MD5
(RC4-MD5 SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=RC4(128) Mac=MD5 ), 128 bits
Mar 26 15:47:59 gateway popper[25918]: TLS shutdown Error

this is using ms outlook... is there problems with the outlook
implementation?

have i set something up wrong.? or does this really matter if it all seems
to work anyway?

thanks in advance james


From: John Jones <JohnJ at mindquake dot com>
Subject: Multiple downloads
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:13:05 -0800

Thanks for all of the suggestions, but alas, none of them are the correct
solutions.

The problem is still occurring, and I still do not know what is causing it,
thus how to solve it.  I just come in each morning and expect to have to
hand-sort and delete 75-150 emails that were downloaded multiple times.

Some people recommended using a different email client, so I will attempt
that for a few days to see if it is Outlook related.

From: John Jones <JohnJ at mindquake dot com>
Subject: RE: Multiple downloads
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:35:34 -0800

No, the same mail client is repeatedly downloading the same email messages.
It happens regardless of the other client at home.

C'mon guys, I am not stupid.  I have worked in the ISP industry for over 5
years as a Sendmail administrator.  I know how POP3 works.  That is why I
cannot figure out where this is happening.  I honestly am starting to think
that it is a client issue combined with slowdowns/outages on the network due
to backups.  If the Outlook client looses connectivity to the server, then
reestablishes, it re-downloads everything without checking to see if it
already has it.

I come in, there are 4 of the -same- message (same timestamp, even) setting
in the inbox from last Friday.  THAT is the issue.

I sorry to have bothered the list.  =(



> -----Original Message-----
> From: <removed for privacy>
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:28 AM
> To: John Jones
> Subject: Re: Multiple downloads
> 
> 
> 
> John, I think pop doesn't really support multiple accesses 
> to the maildrop, i.e. it is the client who knows what mails 
> have been downloaded or not, if you have downloaded them at 
> home, then your work client will download them again. IMAP 
> is the solution to this... I don't know any pop clients that 
> really support some sort of synching together...
> 
> 

From: "Lisa Casey" <lisa at jellico dot com>
Subject: Re: Multiple downloads
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:59:32 -0500

Hi John,

Granted, I don't know as much as some about these issues, but if your quote
that appears below is what is actually happening, then that is what's
causing the problem.

If Outlook (or Outlook Express) quits prematurely then it never issues the
command to actually delete the messages it just downloaded off of the
server. Therefore they hang around to be downloaded again.

The solution that we have found to this problem is to increase the server
timeout in Outlook's (and OE's) settings. Microsoft's default of one minute
is just not long enough for our mail servers. We have one server that we
need to crank up the server timeout to 2.5 to 3 minutes. On our slower
server, we have our customers increase it to the maximum of 5 minutes.

This has solved this problem for us, I don't know if it is your problem or
not.

Lisa Casey, Webmaster
Interstate 2000, Inc.
lisa at jellico dot com
webmaster at jellico dot com

-----Original Message-----
From: John Jones <JohnJ at mindquake dot com>
To: Subscribers of Qpopper <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
Date: Monday, March 26, 2001 1:35 PM
Subject: RE: Multiple downloads


>C'mon guys, I am not stupid.  I have worked in the ISP industry for over 5
>years as a Sendmail administrator.  I know how POP3 works.  That is why I
>cannot figure out where this is happening.  I honestly am starting to think
>that it is a client issue combined with slowdowns/outages on the network
due
>to backups.  If the Outlook client looses connectivity to the server, then
>reestablishes, it re-downloads everything without checking to see if it
>already has it.





Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:17:26 -0800 (GMT)
From: tsyap <tsyap at ns1.teamsoftware dot net>
Subject: Subfolder downloading...

Hello,

I have no problem on downloading mail from my INBOX but I was wondering how to 
download the other subfolder example like Draft, Delete, Send and the other 
folder which i created myself.

I have to say sorry if this brought out for discuss previously, i hope to get 
some guideline and advice or please direct me to the best URL to stuff arround.

Thank you in advance.

Regards,
T.S.Yap


From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:09:45 -0800
Subject: Re: Subfolder downloading...

On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:17:26 -0800 (GMT), tsyap wrote:

>I have no problem on downloading mail from my INBOX but I was wondering how to 
>download the other subfolder example like Draft, Delete, Send and the other 
>folder which i created myself.

There's no concept of "folders" in POP3. Everything comes out of a
single mailbox. IMAP supports multiple server folders, but qpopper is
strictly a POP3 daemon, and doesn't do IMAP.

If you need an IMAP server, check out the University of Washington (UW)
package, or Cyrus. qpopper *can* be used as the POP3 component of the
UW server, and will coexist with the UW IMAP server.


Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
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From: "Isp Wiz" <isp at linkserve.com dot ng>
Subject: spooler directory
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:02:04 +0100

Hello all,
    I have a slight problem with qpopper. I have quotas set up on my mail
directory, so it is really tacky since qpopper creates a temporary pop file
for downloading. What I need to know is: is it possible to set up qpopper to
spool mail in a particular directory, say /spool instead of in the home
directories or the default (var/spool/mail)?

Thanks

Wiz


Subject: Re: spooler directory
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:33:03 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Eric Luyten <Eric.Luyten at vub.ac dot be>

>     I have a slight problem with qpopper. I have quotas set up on my mail
> directory, so it is really tacky since qpopper creates a temporary pop file
> for downloading. What I need to know is: is it possible to set up qpopper to
> spool mail in a particular directory, say /spool instead of in the home
> directories or the default (var/spool/mail)?

It's a configuration option :

   --enable-temp-drop-dir=...


Eric.

Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:30:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Gustavo Viscaino <g_viscaino at yahoo dot com>
Subject: RE: Multiple downloads

I am experiencing a similar problem these days. The
box is a RedHat 6.2 with qpopper 3.1.2 in server-mode,
using Outlook Express as the client. Most people there
leave mail on the server so they can download the
messages at home. After downloading a message in the
morning, sometimes Outlook Express downloads the same
message(s) in the afternoon, making my life a hassle
;-).

I don't know if it's something broken with Outlook
Express (a bug in UIDL checking??) or something wrong
with qpopper (somehow I doubt it... qpopper's role
would be generating correct UIDLs and responding
correctly to STAT requests and something like that,
right? Randall? ;-)). Unfortunately, I didn't have the
time to test it with other mail clients and
Microsoft's Knowledge Base didn't have any
satisfactory answer. I enabled logging in Outlook
Express so I could see what was going on behind the
scene, but the log file is too big for a quick glance.
Does anyone have a clue of what might be going on?

Thanks in advance,

Gustavo Viscaino
g_viscaino at yahoo dot com

--- John Jones <JohnJ at mindquake dot com> wrote:
> No, the same mail client is repeatedly downloading
> the same email messages.
> It happens regardless of the other client at home.
> 
> C'mon guys, I am not stupid.  I have worked in the
> ISP industry for over 5
> years as a Sendmail administrator.  I know how POP3
> works.  That is why I
> cannot figure out where this is happening.  I
> honestly am starting to think
> that it is a client issue combined with
> slowdowns/outages on the network due
> to backups.  If the Outlook client looses
> connectivity to the server, then
> reestablishes, it re-downloads everything without
> checking to see if it
> already has it.
> 
> I come in, there are 4 of the -same- message (same
> timestamp, even) setting
> in the inbox from last Friday.  THAT is the issue.
> 
> I sorry to have bothered the list.  =(
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: <removed for privacy>
> > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:28 AM
> > To: John Jones
> > Subject: Re: Multiple downloads
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > John, I think pop doesn't really support multiple
> accesses 
> > to the maildrop, i.e. it is the client who knows
> what mails 
> > have been downloaded or not, if you have
> downloaded them at 
> > home, then your work client will download them
> again. IMAP 
> > is the solution to this... I don't know any pop
> clients that 
> > really support some sort of synching together...
> > 
> > 


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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:56:48 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: RE: Multiple downloads

At 8:30 AM -0800 3/27/01, Gustavo Viscaino wrote:

>  I am experiencing a similar problem these days. The
>  box is a RedHat 6.2 with qpopper 3.1.2 in server-mode,
>  using Outlook Express as the client. Most people there
>  leave mail on the server so they can download the
>  messages at home. After downloading a message in the
>  morning, sometimes Outlook Express downloads the same
>  message(s) in the afternoon, making my life a hassle
>  ;-).
>
>  I don't know if it's something broken with Outlook
>  Express (a bug in UIDL checking??) or something wrong
>  with qpopper (somehow I doubt it... qpopper's role
>  would be generating correct UIDLs and responding
>  correctly to STAT requests and something like that,
>  right? Randall? ;-)). Unfortunately, I didn't have the
>  time to test it with other mail clients and
>  Microsoft's Knowledge Base didn't have any
>  satisfactory answer. I enabled logging in Outlook
>  Express so I could see what was going on behind the
>  scene, but the log file is too big for a quick glance.
>  Does anyone have a clue of what might be going on?

Are you using '--disable-status'?   If not, I'd suspect the client.

We see a lot of complaints about stuff like this, and always with 
Outlook/Outlook Express.  Try having the affected people use Eudora 
(or some other client) for a while, and see if the problem goes 
away.  (<http://www.eudora.com>).




-- 
Randall Gellens
Opinions are personal;    facts are suspect;    I speak for myself only
-------------- Randomly-selected tag: ---------------
All computers wait at the same speed.

Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:18:19 +1000
From: Malcolm Kerec <malcolm.kerec at hcn.com dot au>
Subject: RE: Multiple downloads

Yes, this is definitely a problem specific to M$ mail clients (no surprise 
really!).  As suggested, the solution is to increase Outlook's timeout 
value to the maximum allowed or to consider using Eudora (much better than 
Outlook anyway!) instead!

Regards,
Malcolm Kerec



At 05:56 PM 3/27/2001 -0800, Randall Gellens wrote:
>At 8:30 AM -0800 3/27/01, Gustavo Viscaino wrote:
>
>>  I am experiencing a similar problem these days. The
>>  box is a RedHat 6.2 with qpopper 3.1.2 in server-mode,
>>  using Outlook Express as the client. Most people there
>>  leave mail on the server so they can download the
>>  messages at home. After downloading a message in the
>>  morning, sometimes Outlook Express downloads the same
>>  message(s) in the afternoon, making my life a hassle
>>  ;-).
>>
>>  I don't know if it's something broken with Outlook
>>  Express (a bug in UIDL checking??) or something wrong
>>  with qpopper (somehow I doubt it... qpopper's role
>>  would be generating correct UIDLs and responding
>>  correctly to STAT requests and something like that,
>>  right? Randall? ;-)). Unfortunately, I didn't have the
>>  time to test it with other mail clients and
>>  Microsoft's Knowledge Base didn't have any
>>  satisfactory answer. I enabled logging in Outlook
>>  Express so I could see what was going on behind the
>>  scene, but the log file is too big for a quick glance.
>>  Does anyone have a clue of what might be going on?
>
>Are you using '--disable-status'?   If not, I'd suspect the client.
>
>We see a lot of complaints about stuff like this, and always with 
>Outlook/Outlook Express.  Try having the affected people use Eudora (or 
>some other client) for a while, and see if the problem goes 
>away.  (<http://www.eudora.com>).
>
>
>
>
>--
>Randall Gellens
>Opinions are personal;    facts are suspect;    I speak for myself only
>-------------- Randomly-selected tag: ---------------
>All computers wait at the same speed.

______________________________________________________________________


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Tel: +61 2 6281 5881

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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:00:48 +0100
From: Torsten Mueller <torsten at archesoft dot de>
Subject: Re: Multiple downloads

Hey,

why not setting debug from qpopper to a higher value to see
what is going on ?

Another "solution" would be to compile qpopper with another
option. Don't remind the 
exact string, but the meaning was delete the message from
spool after downloading
by a client (regardless what the the client says about
"Leave the message ...")

But only my 2 points 

Greetings Torsten


John Jones schrieb:
> 
> No, the same mail client is repeatedly downloading the same email messages.
> It happens regardless of the other client at home.
> 
> C'mon guys, I am not stupid.  I have worked in the ISP industry for over 5
> years as a Sendmail administrator.  I know how POP3 works.  That is why I
> cannot figure out where this is happening.  I honestly am starting to think
> that it is a client issue combined with slowdowns/outages on the network due
> to backups.  If the Outlook client looses connectivity to the server, then
> reestablishes, it re-downloads everything without checking to see if it
> already has it.
> 
> I come in, there are 4 of the -same- message (same timestamp, even) setting
> in the inbox from last Friday.  THAT is the issue.
> 
> I sorry to have bothered the list.  =(
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: <removed for privacy>
> > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:28 AM
> > To: John Jones
> > Subject: Re: Multiple downloads
> >
> >
> >
> > John, I think pop doesn't really support multiple accesses
> > to the maildrop, i.e. it is the client who knows what mails
> > have been downloaded or not, if you have downloaded them at
> > home, then your work client will download them again. IMAP
> > is the solution to this... I don't know any pop clients that
> > really support some sort of synching together...
> >
> >

Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:55:54 -0800
From: PB <bvirtual at westworld dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 2.53 reverse lookup fails for SOME clients

Kenneth, Thanks.  The problem is now intermittent for 8 popper
accounts, except one.  See below for details, but really I write 
you for this reason:

Perhaps other similar posts have a similar cause as to 
my mysterious problem as well.  Perhaps the FAQ should be modified 
to reflect that the local DNS may be configured properly, and the 
upstream DNS is bad???  That is, it may not be just a local DNS
problem.  This appears to be the case for me.

The computer is not heavily loaded, has free RAM all the time.
And few DNS config changes.  None for the time period involved.
Thus, it likely is not a local DNS problem, unless someone is attacking
my computer.  That would not effect a limited number of accounts.
Must turn on the DNS logging I guess.  It has worked fine for
2.5 years to date.

I figure it is some upstream DNS provider is going wacky with
config changes.  Not sure why that would effect my DNS though.

At 08:40 PM 3/23/2001 , Kenneth Porter wrote:
>If the reverse-DNS works from another machine, then there's
>some reason the DNS data can't get from there to your qpopper server.

Agreed.  I was hoping this rare type of failure, no changes
to the system and the reverse lookup of 3 IPs stops working
might be 'known' to the list readers.  The problem went away
March 23 at 21:19:07.  That was a few hours after I posted
to the list after 3 days of struggling to find out why these
IP number would not reverse lookup.  Other numbers in the
same class C IP range would lookup.

Hmm, looking at the log the reverse failed again starting
March 26 at 11:26 for my 5 popper accounts.  And on the same
day at 21:47 started working again.  And is still working now.
Resolution is every 6 minutes the popper accounts are checked.

The popper account 'kelly' continues to fail.
The popper account 'david' continues to be intermittent
but not at the same frequency as my 5 accounts.

It is screwball.  I only posted here as a last resort.

>You could ask on the ISC bind-users mailing list. 

You are right that is where I searched first once I realized
it was not truly a Qpopper problem, but it appears to not
be related to my DNS either, as I tested that thoroughly.
So I posted to this list in hopes...

>Be sure to provide
>real addresses and names so experts can check your DNS. 

The problem is my DNS is working fine.  It appears to be a
problem with an upstream provider somehow, though not my
immediate ISP as I talked with them and tested their DNS
too.  It would not resolve the IP numbers either.   They
had made no changes.  I had helped them set up their DNS
along with the hired consulting guru.

Asking someone to test so many upstream ISPs ... well I thought
to first find out if this rare problem is known here at Qpopper.

As the problem appeared by itself and left by itself, it makes
me wonder how truly marvelous DNS is.  

>They skip
>messages with obfuscated data.

As you stated there are exploits to 2.53, and advertising them
to a public mailing list is not in my best interest, especially
to such an expert crowd.

Thanks again Kenneth.

Pete


From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 02:26:20 -0800
Subject: Re: Qpopper 2.53 reverse lookup fails for SOME clients

On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:55:54 -0800, PB wrote:

>Agreed.  I was hoping this rare type of failure, no changes
>to the system and the reverse lookup of 3 IPs stops working
>might be 'known' to the list readers.  The problem went away
>March 23 at 21:19:07.  That was a few hours after I posted
>to the list after 3 days of struggling to find out why these
>IP number would not reverse lookup.  Other numbers in the
>same class C IP range would lookup.

What does dig say when you try to resolve those addresses? Try "dig -x
ip-number +d2". (The +d2 turns on extra-verbose DNS debugging.)

>Hmm, looking at the log the reverse failed again starting
>March 26 at 11:26 for my 5 popper accounts.  And on the same
>day at 21:47 started working again.  And is still working now.
>Resolution is every 6 minutes the popper accounts are checked.
>
>The popper account 'kelly' continues to fail.
>The popper account 'david' continues to be intermittent
>but not at the same frequency as my 5 accounts.

It's probably not related to the account, except in that the user using
that account is always using a specific IP address to check his mail.
Let us know the addresses that are failing. There's lots of
misconfigured DNS servers out there, and it's good to let their admins
know when they're screwed up.

>As the problem appeared by itself and left by itself, it makes
>me wonder how truly marvelous DNS is.  

The good thing about DNS is that it's distributed. No single point of
failure. Otherwise *all* your accounts would fail.

I was getting a resolver failure a couple of weeks ago and traced it to
one of my users checking his mail from his DSL account at home in
Novato, CA. I looked into the failure (with dig) and found his ISP was
running an ancient (and hence vulnerable) version of BIND, and had no
PTR records for his users. I let the hostmaster know about the problem.
Hopefully he's fixing it.

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:38:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Ed - Qpopper <qman at brokendown dot net>
Subject: Rehat, xinet, and qpopper.

I am trying to get qpopper to run but it fails to run after restarting
xinet.
It gives me the "connection refused" message when I
telnet machinename 110.
Qpopper runs fine if I set it up as pop-2 service and give it port 109. 
When I disable (commented out) the ipop3 entry in xinetd.conf 
and changed qpopper to pop-3 and port 110 it fails.
I commented out the ipop entry.

Do I need to kill any instance of ipop still running?
xinet stop
kill any ipop
xinet start  with new config?

Thanks in advance.

Ed


Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:59:53 -0800 (PST)
From: "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed at wcug.wwu dot edu>
Subject: Re: Rehat, xinet, and qpopper.

On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Ed - Qpopper wrote:

> I am trying to get qpopper to run but it fails to run after restarting
> xinet.
> It gives me the "connection refused" message when I
> telnet machinename 110.

Look at your logs -- xinetd should tell you what is wrong.

  Jeremy C. Reed
.......................................................
     ISP-FAQ.com -- find answers to your questions
     http://www.isp-faq.com/


Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:42:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Ed - Qpopper <qman at brokendown dot net>
Subject: RE: Redhat, xinet, and qpopper.

> refused connections.

Below is the version of xinetd that works. I comment out the 
ipop3d service and change pop-2 to pop-3 and port to 110.

Thanks again.
Ed

service pop-2
{
	socket_type = stream
	protocol    = tcp
	wait        = no
	user        = root
	server      = /usr/sbin/popper
	server_args = -c -s -T 120 
	port	    = 109
}

service pop-3
{
	flags       = REUSE NAMEINARGS
	socket_type = stream
	protocol    = tcp
	wait        = no
	user        = root
	server      = /usr/sbin/tcpd
	server_args = ipop3d 
	instances   = 100
}




Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:59:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Gustavo Viscaino <g_viscaino at yahoo dot com>
Subject: RE: Multiple downloads

> Are you using '--disable-status'?   If not, I'd
> suspect the client.

No, I'm not. It's a very simple qpopper setup, with
'--enable-specialauth' and '--enable-servermode' only.

> We see a lot of complaints about stuff like this,
> and always with 
> Outlook/Outlook Express.

That is good to know. It may spare me of some weird
debugging. ;-)

> Try having the affected
> people use Eudora 
> (or some other client) for a while, and see if the
> problem goes 
> away.  (<http://www.eudora.com>).

Shameless plug, eh??? ;-) Actually, this would be the
best route. I will ask them to install Eudora or maybe
Messenger to see what's up. Thank you and all the
others for the answers.

Gustavo Viscaino
g_viscaino at yahoo dot com

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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:02:03 +1200 (NZST)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: Subfolder downloading...

On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Kenneth Porter wrote:

> There's no concept of "folders" in POP3.

Minxpring have a hacked one which supports "xspam" commands to access
other folders online. I doubt it'll ever spread beyond them and it's not
desirable in any case

> If you need an IMAP server, check out the University of Washington (UW)
> package, or Cyrus. qpopper *can* be used as the POP3 component of the
> UW server, and will coexist with the UW IMAP server.

Wot he said - Imap is the way to fly for multiple folders.

AB


Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:45:03 +0100
From: Magnus Krafft <magnus.krafft at hkv.mil dot se>
Subject: RE: Multiple downloads

At 22:59 2001-03-28, you wrote:
> > Are you using '--disable-status'?   If not, I'd
> > suspect the client.
>
>No, I'm not. It's a very simple qpopper setup, with
>'--enable-specialauth' and '--enable-servermode' only.


I've seen some problems related to clients interpretation of the UIDL. It 
doesn't seem to be related to a specific POP3 server (like qpopper) since 
I've seen it happen with another POP3 server as well.

I've sniffed the network traffic and analyzed commands and info sent back 
and forth and it seems to me that the client somehow screws up the storage 
of the UIDL since everything going back and forth on the network is 
correct. I guess it's a buggy "store UIDL/Retreive UIDL" and compare 
between a UIDL from server that requires some freak circumstance to happen. 
(Clients that default to using some other way of knowing if they donwloaded 
a message or not should be taken out and shot.)

In any way it's as far as I can see related to the client, ergo sum - not 
my problem. I work with servers and networks only (if I don't manage to 
solve their problems that is. :-) I recommend you switch client, and you 
know what *I* prefer.

Cheers!


Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:37:43 -0500 (EST)
From: James Ralston <qralston+ml.qpopper at andrew.cmu dot edu>
Subject: Re: Redhat, xinet, and qpopper.

Don't edit the /etc/xinetd.conf file directly; instead, stick each of
the entries below in your /etc/xinetd.d directory as separate files:

/etc/xinetd.d/qpopper:

    service pop3
    {
            flags       = REUSE
            socket_type = stream
            protocol    = tcp
            wait        = no
            user        = root
            server      = /usr/sbin/popper
            server_args = -c -s -T 120
    }

/etc/xinetd.d/ipop3:

    service pop3
    {
            flags       = REUSE NAMEINARGS
            socket_type = stream
            protocol    = tcp
            wait        = no
            user        = root
            server      = /usr/sbin/tcpd
            server_args = ipop3d
            instances   = 100
    }

Then run:

    $ chkconfig ipop3 off
    $ chkconfig qpopper on

The chkconfig(8) program is your friend.

-- 
James Ralston, Information Technology
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA, USA

On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Ed - Qpopper wrote:

> Below is the version of xinetd that works.  I comment out the ipop3d
> service and change pop-2 to pop-3 and port to 110.
>
> service pop-2
> {
>         socket_type = stream
>         protocol    = tcp
>         wait        = no
>         user        = root
>         server      = /usr/sbin/popper
>         server_args = -c -s -T 120
>         port        = 109
> }
>
> service pop-3
> {
>         flags       = REUSE NAMEINARGS
>         socket_type = stream
>         protocol    = tcp
>         wait        = no
>         user        = root
>         server      = /usr/sbin/tcpd
>         server_args = ipop3d
>         instances   = 100
> }


From: "Jarek Kaczmarczyk" <eagle at au.poznan dot pl>
Subject: newbie - I cannot start qpopper
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 08:51:14 +0200

Hi,
this is my first time :-)

I'm trying to start qpopper on Solaris 8 on Intel Architecture.
The ./configure and make commands didn't result with any errors.

But now when I try to start qpopper with a command:
/usr/local/lib/popper
there is no result. 

As far as I can understand all that stuff, I did everything
correctly - as described in INSTALL file.

I am using postfix instead of sendmail - may it be the reason?

Please be patient with my ignorance and give me some step by
step suggestions.

Marbie


From: "Armelle Nedelec" <anedelec at inco.com dot lb>
Subject: Re: newbie - I cannot start qpopper
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:07:40 +0300

If I remember well qpopper has to be started within the inetd, except if you
compile it with standalone option.
You should find the line you have to write in the file inetd.conf within the
INSTALL file.

Regards
Armelle Nedelec

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jarek Kaczmarczyk" <eagle at au.poznan dot pl>
To: "Subscribers of Qpopper" <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 9:51 AM
Subject: newbie - I cannot start qpopper


> Hi,
> this is my first time :-)
>
> I'm trying to start qpopper on Solaris 8 on Intel Architecture.
> The ./configure and make commands didn't result with any errors.
>
> But now when I try to start qpopper with a command:
> /usr/local/lib/popper
> there is no result.
>
> As far as I can understand all that stuff, I did everything
> correctly - as described in INSTALL file.
>
> I am using postfix instead of sendmail - may it be the reason?
>
> Please be patient with my ignorance and give me some step by
> step suggestions.
>
> Marbie
>
>


From: "Jarek Kaczmarczyk" <eagle at au.poznan dot pl>
Subject: I cannot start qpopper - It works!!
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:36:01 +0200

> If I remember well qpopper has to be started within the inetd, except if
you
> compile it with standalone option.
> You should find the line you have to write in the file inetd.conf within
the
> INSTALL file.
>
> Regards
> Armelle Nedelec

THANKS!!! It now works!
brgds
Marbie


Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 02:05:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Padraic Renaghan <list at renaghan dot com>
Subject: qpopper virtual host patch?

I've looked for a couple hours, but can't seem to find what I need.

I'd like to patch qpopper to:

1) have users login as user@domain

2) authenticate against a standard password file
   named /etc/mail/$domain/passwd

3) pull mail from a spool file named
   /var/spool/virtual_domains/$domain/$user

This is what I suppose to be a "standard" virtual host type
setup. I assume/hope someone has done this before.

Any pointers on where I might look for a patch?

I don't want to use MySQL - I've seen that patch.

Also, is there a central repository or other resource
that lists patches to qpopper?

Thanks,
Padraic Renaghan

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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:34:41 +0900
From: Peter Evans <peter at gol dot com>
Subject: qpopper 3.1 that speaks LDAP.

Ok, so its not qpopper 4.blort,

Is there any interest in making my slightly hacked 3.1 available?
It has a few dumb modifications that pretty much anyone who has an allergy to
 /etc/passwd would make:

This version is tested and proven functional on linux! (yuck![1]) and is
currently serving almost 40000 mailboxes. Has been for almost nine months.

	MTA:	exim
	LDAP:	openldap 1.2.blarg

Exim uses the same LDAP to decide where to drop the mail, all mail is owned by
"mail" in this case. It is almost trivial to switch to postfix, sendmail isn't
quite as simple -.-:

qpopper 3.1-LDAP uses the username (domainname is hard coded, sorry!) and
the mailPath to find where the mail is hiding. 

mailPickup is used by popproxy 1.52-LDAP to route the session from the outside
to the backend in case you were wondering about the replication.

Schema used:

dn: uid=bunny at gol dot com, ou=mail, dc=gol, dc=com
objectClass: inetLocalMailRecipient
mailLocalAddress: bunny at gol dot com
mailRoutingAddress: bunny at mb01.mail.gol dot com
mailPickup: bunny at mb01.mail.gol dot com
userPassword: <NYANNYANPOKKAPOKKA>
mailPath: /mail/spool/mb01.fields.gol.com/5f4/3c7/a8.bunny

	Peter
	----*

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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:07:09 +0100
From: Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Subject: Re: qpopper 3.1 that speaks LDAP.

On the subject of hacking qpopper for LDAP etc.

3.1.2 has a bunch of calls to getpwnam scattered about the place which means
that in certain configurations it will do a passwd file lookup 5 times each
time someone pops their mail. It also makes replacing the passwd file with
something like LDAP or MySQL kinda awkward.

I submitted a patch that makes qpopper lookup up your passwd info once, at 
the very start then just keep that info in memory. So now it's dead easy to
replace the single getwnam() call with the lookup function of your choice.

I was told the changes would be included in the next release. That was the
middle of January and there's hasn't been a release since (has there? I've
been on holidays a bit...) Alternatives to the passwd file seem to be a
fairly popular topic on this list. Any chance we're going to see that 
release soon? In case it doesn't happen for a long time, I'll send the
patches to the list too.

The next step I'd like to take is to make a simple plugin system for passwd
file lookup which can be enabled with a configure option. If that was in
place people would no longer have to patch qpopper to get away from 
/etc/passwd. It would also make life much easier for those of us who
maintain these alternative auth methods as we wouldn't have to keep updating
out patches for every new release.

I had this working for Linux on an old version of qpopper, it's very simple
- you just have to add about 6 lines of C and some some changes to the
configure script. If I thought it would get into the official version I'd  
submit it and hopefully make it more cross-platform. If it went into LX too
then all the same auth methods would become available to LX customers too
with no extra work... so how about it?

Fergal

Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:16:16 +0100
From: Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Subject: Patches to eliminate getpwnams

--yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline

Here are the patches I mentioned to remove all extra calls to getpwnam from
qpopper and a little bit of miscellaneous tidaying. Also, some details on
what each patch does.

> For clarity there are 4 patches, the first 3 can be applied independently of
> each other and the fourth ties them together so that there is only one call
> to getpwnam in all of qpopper (not counting popauth.c)
> 
> genp_cleanup.patch just joins the three different genpath versions into one
> function, this just saves of some repetition of error checking and
> returning, I think there is quite a bit of other stuff in common between the
> 4 different methods but I made no attempt to sort that out as I wanted to
> change as little as possible. This involved cutting and pasting so hopefully
> nothing broke! Also GNPH_TMP doesn't seem to be used by anything...
> 
> pw_cleanup.patch inserts the pw member in the POP structure, this is then
> populated in pop_user. This means there is only one passwd file lookup going
> on in popper/*.c, there is still one in common/genpath.c
> 
> lock_mod.patch changed Qmaillock to take the filename as an argument rather
> than the user name.  The results of genpath were already being cached in
> p->drop_name so this avoids calling genpath again and removes another
> dependency on looking up the passwd file.
> 
> Any of the above patches can be applied without the others, they all do
> independent clean up work. The last patch needs the others to really make
> sense.
> 
> one_getpwnam.patch changes genpath to take a passwd struct instead of just a
> username, this eliminates the final getpwnam.


--yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="pw_cleanup.patch"

--yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM--

Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:32:31 +0200 (CEST)
From: robert rotman <rotman at inode dot at>
Subject: performance of qpopper

Hi,

I've instlled qpopper and its hitting my box a little bit.
Beside of the popserver there is a mailserver on the same machine which
dosn't need too much of the system resources.
what can i do to improve performance of any pop server especcialy qpopper?
(the only thing i found was to enable server-mode which did not help very
much)
did anyone made some tests of popservers which read mbx or maildir?
are there any advantages in performance?

I would like to have all the pop-accounts on one machine. are there some
other concepts how to manage this (also "scaling" would be very nice ;-)).


thank you all in advance,

   robert



Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 12:41:03 +0900
From: Peter Evans <peter at gol dot com>
Subject: Re: performance of qpopper

robert rotman (rotman at inode dot at) wrote:
> I've instlled qpopper and its hitting my box a little bit.
> Beside of the popserver there is a mailserver on the same machine which
> dosn't need too much of the system resources.
> what can i do to improve performance of any pop server especcialy qpopper?
> (the only thing i found was to enable server-mode which did not help very much)

	Enable Server mode +
	No status +
	No update on abort.

	also, quota your mailboxes. qpopper 3/blort dies when your idiot user
	hasa 411mb mailbox of 93000 mails. So forcibly keep the size down to
	something manageable, like 10 or 20mb.

> did anyone made some tests of popservers which read mbx or maildir?
> are there any advantages in performance?
	
	maildir is DJB, I wont be using it. It also eats inodes like the good old
	days of INN.
 
> I would like to have all the pop-accounts on one machine. are there some
> other concepts how to manage this (also "scaling" would be very nice ;-)).

	Search the archive for something I posted about scaling.

	P


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From: "Jordan Snyder" <jordan at digital6 dot net>
Subject: qpopper and qmail
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 16:28:57 -0500

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Hello everyone,

I am using qmail and qpopper 3.1.2.  I don't know much about the 
differences between mbox and Maildir and whatnot, but I'm pretty sure 
qmail is using mbox because it drops mail for users in their respective 
"~/Mailbox" and it is a single file, not a directory.  So, my problem is 
with qpopper.  It is obviously not looking in the Mailbox file for 
emails, because I can log in through pop3 and authenticate etc, but I 
have no mail.  Does anyone know how to make qpopper use the ~/Mailbox 
file?  Please let me know


Thank you all,

Jordan Snyder

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<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Hello everyone,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I am using qmail and qpopper 3.1.2.&nbsp; I don't 
know much 
about the differences between mbox and Maildir and whatnot, but I'm 
pretty sure 
qmail is using mbox because it drops mail for users in their respective 
"~/Mailbox" and it is a single file, not a directory.&nbsp; So, my 
problem is 
with qpopper.&nbsp; It is obviously not looking in the Mailbox file for 
emails, 
because I can log in through pop3 and authenticate etc, but I have no 
mail.&nbsp; Does anyone know how to make qpopper use the ~/Mailbox 
file?&nbsp; 
Please let me know</FONT></DIV>
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Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:21:48 -0400
From: Jack Sasportas <jack at innovativeinternet dot com>
Subject: Server Mode ?

If I did a ./configure with --enable-servermode, does it matter how I
call popper from inetd ?  will it be in server mode for sure ?

Also is there a command line parameter to popper that I can check
functionality is good ?

Thanks

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Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 17:53:47 +0200
From: Gilberto Dallan <g.dallan at divinanet dot it>
Subject: mailboxes LOCK - HELP ME

Hi all,
First of all: I search the answer on the net but I have not found it. I 
hope someone can help me.

The problem: I have installed Qpopper, Postfix, Dracd in a Redhat 7 box.
I have tested the sistem with 3 accounts. All seemed to work well.
I have added up to 30 accounts. The box had been plugged yesterday.

Today, after 3 hours of uptime, something wrong (?) is happened: mailboxes 
seemed to be locked (maillog tells me).

How can I repair the problem?

Thank you in advance


Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:40:25 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Patches to eliminate getpwnams

At 4:16 PM +0100 4/7/01, Fergal Daly wrote:

>  Here are the patches I mentioned to remove all extra calls to getpwnam from
>  qpopper and a little bit of miscellaneous tidaying.

Your patches are in the  code base and will be in the next release. 
I appreciate your submitting them.

After incorporated them, a number of problems were discovered when 
running on various platforms.  These have been corrected.  Also, 
some of the code has been rewritten to accommodate other changes.

Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:43:52 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: performance of qpopper

At 8:32 PM +0200 4/7/01, robert rotman wrote:

>  what can i do to improve performance of any pop server especcialy qpopper?
>  (the only thing i found was to enable server-mode which did not help very
>  much)

There is a section in the FAQ about performance: 
<http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/faq.html#performance>.

Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:44:59 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: qpopper and qmail

At 4:28 PM -0500 4/8/01, Jordan Snyder wrote:

>  Does anyone know how to make qpopper use the ~/Mailbox file? 
> Please let me know

This is in the FAQ: <http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/faq.html#homedirmail>.

Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:05:54 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Server Mode ?

At 10:21 AM -0400 4/9/01, Jack Sasportas wrote:

>  If I did a ./configure with --enable-servermode, does it matter how I
>  call popper from inetd ?  will it be in server mode for sure ?

 From the documentation:


The determination of server mode is in the following order:

o Compile-time default ('--enable-server-mode')
o Run-time default ('-S' or 'set server-mode')
o Compile-time inclusion group 
('--enable-server-mode-group-include=group') the user
is a member of
o Compile-time exclusion group 
('--enable-server-mode-group-exclude=group') the
user is a member of
o User-specific .qpopper-options file in the home directory or
.user.qpopper-options in the spool directory.

Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:07:49 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: mailboxes LOCK - HELP ME

At 5:53 PM +0200 4/9/01, Gilberto Dallan wrote:

>  Hi all,
>  First of all: I search the answer on the net but I have not found 
> it. I hope someone can help me.
>
>  The problem: I have installed Qpopper, Postfix, Dracd in a Redhat 7 box.
>  I have tested the sistem with 3 accounts. All seemed to work well.
>  I have added up to 30 accounts. The box had been plugged yesterday.
>
>  Today, after 3 hours of uptime, something wrong (?) is happened: 
> mailboxes seemed to be locked (maillog tells me).
>
>  How can I repair the problem?
>
>  Thank you in advance

If you think Qpopper is doing soemthing wrong, try enabling debug tracing.

Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:27:55 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Patches to eliminate getpwnams

At 7:05 PM +0100 4/9/01, Fergal Daly wrote:

>  I can't deny I was kinda dropping a hint... but it's been quite a while
>  since we've had even a beta release. Any idea when we might see something?

It should be soon.  There has been a lot of development and QA work, 
which takes time.

Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 12:24:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gregory Hicks <ghicks at cadence dot com>
Subject: Re: Server Mode ?


> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:05:54 -0700
> From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
> Subject: Re: Server Mode ?
> 
> At 10:21 AM -0400 4/9/01, Jack Sasportas wrote:
> 
> >  If I did a ./configure with --enable-servermode, does it matter how I
> >  call popper from inetd ?  will it be in server mode for sure ?
> 
>  From the documentation:
> 
> 
> The determination of server mode is in the following order:
> 
> o Compile-time default ('--enable-server-mode')
> o Run-time default ('-S' or 'set server-mode')

Now, I tried setting this option on a 3.0fc1 and 3.2b1x2 qpopper line
in inetd.  In both cases, popper refused to start until I changed it to
a lower case '-s'...  I eventually figured out that the documentation
was in error.

> o Compile-time inclusion group 
> ('--enable-server-mode-group-include=group') the user
> is a member of
> o Compile-time exclusion group 
> ('--enable-server-mode-group-exclude=group') the
> user is a member of
> o User-specific .qpopper-options file in the home directory or
> .user.qpopper-options in the spool directory.
> 

Regards,
Gregory Hicks

Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 19:05:38 +0100
From: Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Subject: Re: Patches to eliminate getpwnams

I can't deny I was kinda dropping a hint... but it's been quite a while
since we've had even a beta release. Any idea when we might see something?

Fergal



On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 10:40:25AM -0700, Randall Gellens wrote:
> At 4:16 PM +0100 4/7/01, Fergal Daly wrote:
> 
> >  Here are the patches I mentioned to remove all extra calls to getpwnam from
> >  qpopper and a little bit of miscellaneous tidaying.
> 
> Your patches are in the  code base and will be in the next release. 
> I appreciate your submitting them.
> 
> After incorporated them, a number of problems were discovered when 
> running on various platforms.  These have been corrected.  Also, 
> some of the code has been rewritten to accommodate other changes.

-- 

Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:04:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed at wcug.wwu dot edu>
Subject: Re: Patches to eliminate getpwnams

  This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
  while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
  Send mail to mime at docserver.cac.washington dot edu for more info.

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On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Fergal Daly wrote:

> Here are the patches I mentioned to remove all extra calls to getpwnam from

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It seems like the qpopper list removed the attachment.

I am interested in looking at them. Can you email them to me or make them
available on the web?

  Jeremy C. Reed
.......................................................
     ISP-FAQ.com -- find answers to your questions
     http://www.isp-faq.com/

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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:27:25 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Server Mode ?

At 12:24 PM -0700 4/9/01, Gregory Hicks wrote:

>  Now, I tried setting this option on a 3.0fc1 and 3.2b1x2 qpopper line
>  in inetd.  In both cases, popper refused to start until I changed it to
>  a lower case '-s'...  I eventually figured out that the documentation
>  was in error.

's' (lower case) means statistics.  'S' (upper case) means server 
mode.  You can also set these options using a config file.  If 'S' 
isn't in 3.1.2 it will be in the next release.

From: Campos Sergio <scampos at mcmtelecom.com dot mx>
Subject: Having problems with my quotas
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:19:42 -0600 

I have a Linux machine running Red Hat 6.0 and I installed qpopper 3.0 
I am
limitin my users to 10 MB of space but I have the problem that when the
mailbox reaches 5 MB and the user tries to login he receives an error
message an he can´t connect. I try to double the quota space but now 
when it
reaches the 10 MB the system send the error again but because he has 20 
MB
of space in the server the mail keeps arriving until it fills the 20MB 
. My
question is :Is there any way to move the place wher qpopper creates 
the
.mailbox.pop file to other file system ? Which is the option that I 
have to
use when I compile qpopper ? 

Thanks

Sergio Campos Sanchez
MCM Telecomunicaciones
The Broadband Company
Tel. +52 5350-0000 x 2036


From: Campos Sergio <scampos at mcmtelecom.com dot mx>
Subject: Probems with my quotas
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:31:41 -0600 

I have a Linux machine running Red Hat 6.0 and I installed qpopper 3.0 
I am
limitin my users to 10 MB of space but I have the problem that when the
mailbox reaches 5 MB and the user tries to login he receives an error
message an he can´t connect. I try to double the quota space but now 
when it
reaches the 10 MB the system send the error again but because he has 20 
MB
of space in the server the mail keeps arriving until it fills the 20MB 
. My
question is :Is there any way to move the place wher qpopper creates 
the
.mailbox.pop file to other file system ? Which is the option that I 
have to
use when I compile qpopper ? 

Thanks

Sergio Campos Sanchez
MCM Telecomunicaciones
The Broadband Company
Tel. +52 5350-0000 x 2036


Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 22:21:36 -0400
From: Jack Sasportas <jack at innovativeinternet dot com>
Subject: Re: Probems with my quotas

You could run it in server mode, that would eliminate the problem....

Campos Sergio wrote:

> I have a Linux machine running Red Hat 6.0 and I installed qpopper 3.0 I am
> limitin my users to 10 MB of space but I have the problem that when the
> mailbox reaches 5 MB and the user tries to login he receives an error
> message an he can´t connect. I try to double the quota space but now when it
> reaches the 10 MB the system send the error again but because he has 20 MB
> of space in the server the mail keeps arriving until it fills the 20MB . My
> question is :Is there any way to move the place wher qpopper creates the
> .mailbox.pop file to other file system ? Which is the option that I have to
> use when I compile qpopper ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Sergio Campos Sanchez
> MCM Telecomunicaciones
> The Broadband Company
> Tel. +52 5350-0000 x 2036

--
___________________________________________________________
Jack Sasportas
Innovative Internet Solutions
Phone 305.665.2500
Fax 305.665.2551
www.innovativeinternet.com
www.web56.net



Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:19:55 -0400
From: Frank Beale <fbbeale at richmond.infi dot net>
Subject: Max server load

I have been using Qpopper here for our small ISP for some time with a about
two thousand accounts. All is well.

I have the opportunity to setup a pop mail system for a client that will
have 35,000 accounts but only the possibility of 160 simultaneous
connections. Does anyone have any real world experience if qpopper can
handle this much load and what would be the most efficient way to
authenticate this many accounts. We really want as much speed as possible.


Thanks,

Frank Beale


From: Stuart Errington <StuartErrington at businessserve.co dot uk>
Subject: HASH_SPOOL
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:56:43 +0100

Hi,

Is it possible to use the command HASH_SPOOL=3 which would give you
/var/mail/m/a/i/maida ??  The documentation only shows 2 as a valid value.

Regards,

Stuart Errington
Technical Manager

Business Serve plc.

WINNERS - ISPA AWARDS 2001

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