The qpopper list archive ending on 29 Aug 2000


Topics covered in this issue include:

  1. Re: Can I change the port for qpopper?
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:54:11 -0700
  2. Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:05:49 -0700
  3. IMAP and QPopper
       "Nuno Teixeira" <nuno.teixeira at pt-quorum dot com>
       Wed, 23 Aug 2000 23:09:30 +0100
  4. qpopper runs in non server mode despite enable server mode flag
       Michael Rawls <mrawls at dancris dot com>
       Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:15:35 -0700
  5. Qpopper 3.1b9 available
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:11:49 -0700
  6. Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Thu, 24 Aug 2000 17:34:56 +1200 (NZST)
  7. Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems
       Carrer Yuri <yurj at alfa dot it>
       Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:16:12 +0200 (MET DST)
  8. Qpopper LDAP support
       Balgansuren <balgaa at publica.ub.mng dot net>
       Thu, 24 Aug 2000 20:14:06 -0800 (GMT)
  9. Re: Qpopper LDAP support
       Peter Evans <peter at gol dot com>
       Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:42:01 +0900
 10. Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems
       Gary Schrock <gary at eyelab.psy.msu dot edu>
       Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:58:17 -0400
 11. Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems
       "A. M. Salim" <salim at localweb dot com>
       Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:34:25 -0400 (EDT)
 12. Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems
       Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
       Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:15:45 -0400 (EDT)
 13. Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems
       Chris Szilagyi <chris at mail.esphere dot net>
       Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:48:52 -0500
 14. qpopper3.1b9 breakage on FreeBSD
       Forrest Aldrich <forrie at forrie dot com>
       Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:12:54 -0400
 15. Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:40:13 -0700
 16. Re: ssl and apop together?
       Karl Hoppel <hoppel at opt.nrl.navy dot mil>
       Thu, 24 Aug 2000 17:04:58 -0400
 17. Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems
       Chris Szilagyi <chris at mail.esphere dot net>
       Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:56:12 -0500
 18. Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:13:07 -0700
 19. Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:43:52 +1200 (NZST)
 20. Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:45:26 +1200 (NZST)
 21. Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:07:29 +1200 (NZST)
 22. getting pop3 to answer
       arnjuka <arnjuka at optonline dot net>
       Fri, 25 Aug 2000 00:32:41 +0000
 23. Change Password
       Robert C Dege <rcd at ComptekAmherst dot com>
       Fri, 25 Aug 2000 09:01:37 -0400
 24. configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac
       "Ralph Schaer" <rschaer at datacomm dot ch>
       Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:47:05 +0200
 25. QPopper Newbie Question
       "Troy, Frank" <ftroy at UU dot NET>
       Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:47:52 -0400
 26. Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Fri, 25 Aug 2000 13:10:47 -0700
 27. Re: QPopper Newbie Question
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Fri, 25 Aug 2000 13:35:35 -0700
 28. Re: QPopper Newbie Question
       "S. Jared Pedroza" <jpedroza at allbeegreen dot com>
       Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:17:02 -0600
 29. Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Sat, 26 Aug 2000 11:07:30 +1200 (NZST)
 30. Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac
       Allan Joergensen <dw at nowhere dot dk>
       Sat, 26 Aug 2000 08:35:39 +0200
 31. RE: QPopper Newbie Question
       "InvictaNet Customer Support" <support at invictanet.co dot uk>
       Sat, 26 Aug 2000 07:35:24 +0100
 32. Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Sat, 26 Aug 2000 21:36:02 +1200 (NZST)
 33. Re: QPopper Newbie Question
       "S. Jared Pedroza" <jpedroza at allbeegreen dot com>
       Sat, 26 Aug 2000 08:20:47 -0600
 34. Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:52:56 -0700
 35. bulldb
       Jason Englander <jason at interl dot net>
       Sat, 26 Aug 2000 17:23:51 -0500 (CDT)
 36. Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Sat, 26 Aug 2000 15:42:34 -0700
 37. Re: bulldb
       Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
       Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:16:33 -0700
 38. Getting off of this list
       "Ken Hodges" <ken at rabun dot net>
       Sat, 26 Aug 2000 21:38:12 -0400
 39. Re: Getting off of this list
       "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed at wcug.wwu dot edu>
       Sat, 26 Aug 2000 21:09:46 -0700 (PDT)
 40. Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Sun, 27 Aug 2000 18:05:13 +1200 (NZST)
 41. Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:42:45 -0700
 42. Re: Getting off of this list
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Sun, 27 Aug 2000 13:40:00 -0700
 43. Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:04:15 +1200 (NZST)
 44. Re: bulldb
       Jason Englander <jason at interl dot net>
       Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:14:20 -0500 (CDT)
 45. Re: bulldb
       Jason Englander <jason at interl dot net>
       Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:57:26 -0500 (CDT)
 46. Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:18:11 -0700
 47. poppassd with shadow support needed
       Luigi Casiraghi <Luigi.Casiraghi at weitnauer dot it>
       Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:01:57 +0200
 48. authentification and bulld failure
       "ivang@laura.prodistele.com" <ivang at laura dot prodistele dot com>
       Tue, 29 Aug 2000 18:28:40 +0200
 49. Re: authentification and bulld failure
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:27:31 -0700
 50. Re: poppassd with shadow support needed
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:26:00 -0700

From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:54:11 -0700
Subject: Re: Can I change the port for qpopper?

On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:31:39 -0400, Karl Hoppel wrote:

>While waiting for a reply to my previous post,
>I successfully configured and tested  SSLwrap
>for SSL connections to qpopper.  The problem I see
>is the qpopper must be configured to allow plain text
>passwords because the SSLwrap pipes the connection
>back to the standard pop3 port.   Is it possible to change
>the port for qpopper.  If I changed it to an unused port and
>configured SSLwrap to pipe the SSL connection to the
>new port, then it would discourage non-SSL connections
>because qpopper would be listening to a non-standard port.

Only allow qpopper to listen on the loopback interface, to which
SSLwrap will connect. External machines won't get a connection to the
POP3 port. How are you starting qpopper? If inetd with TCP wrappers,
you can set this up in /etc/hosts.deny and /etc/hosts.allow.

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/



From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:05:49 -0700
Subject: Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems

On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 17:03:35 -0400 (EDT), A. M. Salim wrote:

>POP befor SMTP works just fine, then all of a sudden, for no apparent
>reason, it stops denying relaying for everyone.  It almost seems as if the
>makemap hash table gets "corrupted" somehow.  For example, the "makemap
>hash popper" command stops working, it just hangs.  Rebooting the server
>fixes it.

That's a pretty big hammer, and is masking the source of the problem.
Try resetting individual components to narrow down what's happening.
For example, just restart sendmail and see if that fixes it.

>I realize that there are other solutions such as DRAC

Which POP-before-SMTP mechanism are you using?

>We are using this on a RedHat Linux box

I'm running sendmail-8.10, qpopper-3.1b7, and DRAC on my RH6.1 box. A
recent sendmail is available as an RPM in Red Hat's rawhide directory,
and I've contributed RPM's for qpopper and DRAC (package name dracd) to
Red Hat's contrib directory. Give a yell here or on the RPM list if
you'd like any help upgrading.

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/



From: "Nuno Teixeira" <nuno.teixeira at pt-quorum dot com>
Subject: IMAP and QPopper
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 23:09:30 +0100

Hello to all,

1. Can I use IMAP and POP3 (qpopper) at the same time? I've got this doubt
because I don't know if " /var/spool/mail " is shared or not by this 2
programs.

I've got qpopper configured with spool directory = /var/spool/mail. Where
spool directory chould I use to Imap? The same or something like /var/spool
(like discribed in Install file of Imap).

2. What is the diffrence between qpopper and the server POP that comes with
imap.tar.Z package (www.washington.edu/imap)?

Please explain this to me.

Thanks very much,

Nuno Teixeira


Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:15:35 -0700
From: Michael Rawls <mrawls at dancris dot com>
Subject: qpopper runs in non server mode despite enable server mode flag

Hi All,
  Previously I was using qpopper 2.53 without problems.  After upgrading to
3.02 however the server insisit on running in non-server enabled mode even
though I repeatedly compiled it with the "--enable-servermode" flag.  The OS
is Redhat Linux 5.2 (i386). Any ideas?

I used the following flags to configure and compile qpopper;

/configure --enable-servermode --enable-specialauth
--enable-home-dir-mail=.mail --enable-bulletins=/var/spool/bulls


inetd.conf launches qpopper as;

pop-3  stream  tcp     nowait.400 root /usr/sbin/popper qpopper -s -t
/var/log/poplog


Users are getting the message;

========================
Wed Aug 23 08:42:54 2000 [21916] johnnie at ip-207-105.xxxxxxxxxxx
(###.###.###.###): -ERR Overqu
ota copying messages to Mailspool. Temp drop unchanged (122)
========================

The user's quota is set to 10 megs in their home directory.




Michael Rawls - System Administrator for Dancris Telecom



Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:11:49 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Qpopper 3.1b9 available

Qpopper 3.1b9 is available at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.

A somewhat abbreviated change list is on the Qpopper web site at 
<http://www.qpopper.org/changelist.html>

The full list of changes from one release to the next is on the FTP 
site, at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/beta/Changes>.

The 3.1 release notes are at: 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/beta/Release.Notes>.

Changes from 3.1b8 to 3.1b9
---------------------------

  1.  standalone mode no longer usurps parameters.


Changes from 3.1b7 to 3.1b8
---------------------------

  1.  popauth now has logging and tracing.
  2.  Reorganized popauth command-line syntax.
  3.  Now users can use popauth to list their own entry.
      Use '-list ALL' to list all users.
  4.  Added vlogit() function.
  5.  Added check for sys/time.h.
  6.  Standalone mode now becomes a daemon (unless compiled
      with _DEBUG).
  7.  Corrected exit() vs _exit() for standalone mode.
  8.  Enhanced logging and tracing for standalone mode.
  9.  Added --enable-low-debug for low-level heavy-duty debugging.


Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 17:34:56 +1200 (NZST)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems

On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Kenneth Porter wrote:

> >POP befor SMTP works just fine, then all of a sudden, for no apparent
> >reason, it stops denying relaying for everyone.  It almost seems as if the
> >makemap hash table gets "corrupted" somehow.  For example, the "makemap
> >hash popper" command stops working, it just hangs.  Rebooting the server
> >fixes it.

One of my staff wrote a wee hack for a pop-before-smtp perl script which
did hash table inserts, rather than rebuilding the entire file.

This particular script just sniffs the syslog output, but converting
this to C and adding it to main qpopper code would solve a few issues,
particularly if the same code can be used to set expire/removal policies
too.

Even with SMTP AUTH there are a _lot_ of mail clients which need
pop-before-smtp to work (the don't do auth) and sendmail can be
configured to look at multiple access tables. It's a Feature() in
sendmail 8.10 or later and is a minor hack() in earlier versions.

Anyone interested in working on it?

AB


Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:16:12 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Carrer Yuri <yurj at alfa dot it>
Subject: Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems

> 
> > >POP befor SMTP works just fine, then all of a sudden, for no apparent
> > >reason, it stops denying relaying for everyone.  It almost seems as if the
> > >makemap hash table gets "corrupted" somehow.  For example, the "makemap
> > >hash popper" command stops working, it just hangs.  Rebooting the server
> > >fixes it.

 Why reboot? IMHO, you have to upgrade your libdbm :-) Which version do
 you have?


								Yuri


Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 20:14:06 -0800 (GMT)
From: Balgansuren <balgaa at publica.ub.mng dot net>
Subject: Qpopper LDAP support

Hello,

Anyone using Qpopper with LDAP directory and MySQL database?

There is any patch for Qpopper to support LDAP directory and MySQL
database?

There is any plan Qpopper to support LDAP directory and MySQL database?

Thanks,
Balgaa
System Administrator

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Mongolia     


Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:42:01 +0900
From: Peter Evans <peter at gol dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper LDAP support

Balgansuren (balgaa at publica.ub.mng dot net) wrote:
> Anyone using Qpopper with LDAP directory and MySQL database?

	Make up your mind, one or the other.
 
> There is any patch for Qpopper to support LDAP directory and MySQL
> database?
> There is any plan Qpopper to support LDAP directory and MySQL database?

	Maybe when they stop making all these beta's and add a flag
	to remove any and all mime-mangling, I will patch it to talk
	to my LDAP, not until then, it's not worth the effort.

	In the meantime, why not search freshmeat.net for "pop mysql"
	and keep yourself entertained seeing how well any of the competition
	fare. My money is on solidpop at the moment.

	P

	(running 2.53 and not upgrading until 3.1 stops changing.)

-- 
Remember The 5 K's.
The Justified Agents of Munya-munya-muuuu ...

Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:58:17 -0400
From: Gary Schrock <gary at eyelab.psy.msu dot edu>
Subject: Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems

At 09:16 AM 8/24/2000 +0200, you wrote:
> >
> > > >POP befor SMTP works just fine, then all of a sudden, for no apparent
> > > >reason, it stops denying relaying for everyone.  It almost seems as 
> if the
> > > >makemap hash table gets "corrupted" somehow.  For example, the "makemap
> > > >hash popper" command stops working, it just hangs.  Rebooting the server
> > > >fixes it.

Hmm, in a way that's similar but different from the problem I run into 
myself, but it might be rooted in the same background.  Is your server by 
any chance also running a dns server?  I've noticed with my setup that 
sometimes what will happen is that the dns server will do a refresh on a 
list it holds, and during that time period seems to be unavailable for 
requests, and what ends up happening is that the database for accepting 
relaying ends up at a 0 length until it fixes itself.  I've noticed this 
particularly during times when an upstream connection is bad, and my 
incoming sendmail connections are taking a very long time to finish.  I'm 
not sure whether the problem is either a) sendmail not letting the database 
be repopulated when it's receiving a connection or b) the database just not 
populating properly when the dns server is having trouble for whatever 
reason.  But for me, what ends up happening is that *all* relaying gets 
rejected.  Typically it doesn't clean itself up until after the net 
connection clears up.

This situation, while fairly rare for my setup, has led me to start 
considering something like smtp auth instead of pop before SMTP.



Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:34:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: "A. M. Salim" <salim at localweb dot com>
Subject: Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems


Hi,

Yes, we are indeed running dns on the same box (bind 8) and the symptoms
are almost identical to what you describe.  Though I had not observed the
correlation between upstream connection being bad (if our upstream
connection is bad, it is not bad for hours but typically minutes, whereas
the relaying problem lasts for hours on end once it happens).  Nor have I
observed 0 length databases (/etc/mail/popauth.db and /etc/mail/access.db
for example).

I wonder if there is a utility for peeking into, or listing, the contents
of these db's?  Then when the problem happens I can at least get a look
see into the db and see if there is a data corruption or something.

best regards
Mike

> Hmm, in a way that's similar but different from the problem I run into 
> myself, but it might be rooted in the same background.  Is your server by 
> any chance also running a dns server?  I've noticed with my setup that 
> sometimes what will happen is that the dns server will do a refresh on a 
> list it holds, and during that time period seems to be unavailable for 
> requests, and what ends up happening is that the database for accepting 
> relaying ends up at a 0 length until it fixes itself.  I've noticed this 
> particularly during times when an upstream connection is bad, and my 
> incoming sendmail connections are taking a very long time to finish.  I'm 
> not sure whether the problem is either a) sendmail not letting the database 
> be repopulated when it's receiving a connection or b) the database just not 
> populating properly when the dns server is having trouble for whatever 
> reason.  But for me, what ends up happening is that *all* relaying gets 
> rejected.  Typically it doesn't clean itself up until after the net 
> connection clears up.
> 
> This situation, while fairly rare for my setup, has led me to start 
> considering something like smtp auth instead of pop before SMTP.
> 
> 


Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:15:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Subject: Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems

when i used sendmail i used to have a problem of the sort. every so often
the hash db wouldn't create. i'd have to remove the previous one, then
create. I used to make my maps like this with a shell script and it
worked fine:

rm /etc/junk.db
makemap hash /etc/junk.db < /etc/junk

-Cygnus
.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
Anthony J. Biacco                       Network Administrator/Engineer
thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org       Intergrafix Internet Services

    "Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
http://www.asteroid-b612.org                http://www.intergrafix.net
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Gary Schrock wrote:

> At 09:16 AM 8/24/2000 +0200, you wrote:
> > >
> > > > >POP befor SMTP works just fine, then all of a sudden, for no apparent
> > > > >reason, it stops denying relaying for everyone.  It almost seems as 
> > if the
> > > > >makemap hash table gets "corrupted" somehow.  For example, the "makemap
> > > > >hash popper" command stops working, it just hangs.  Rebooting the server
> > > > >fixes it.
> 
> Hmm, in a way that's similar but different from the problem I run into 
> myself, but it might be rooted in the same background.  Is your server by 
> any chance also running a dns server?  I've noticed with my setup that 
> sometimes what will happen is that the dns server will do a refresh on a 
> list it holds, and during that time period seems to be unavailable for 
> requests, and what ends up happening is that the database for accepting 
> relaying ends up at a 0 length until it fixes itself.  I've noticed this 
> particularly during times when an upstream connection is bad, and my 
> incoming sendmail connections are taking a very long time to finish.  I'm 
> not sure whether the problem is either a) sendmail not letting the database 
> be repopulated when it's receiving a connection or b) the database just not 
> populating properly when the dns server is having trouble for whatever 
> reason.  But for me, what ends up happening is that *all* relaying gets 
> rejected.  Typically it doesn't clean itself up until after the net 
> connection clears up.
> 
> This situation, while fairly rare for my setup, has led me to start 
> considering something like smtp auth instead of pop before SMTP.
> 
> 
> 


Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:48:52 -0500
From: Chris Szilagyi <chris at mail.esphere dot net>
Subject: Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems

You can dump the contents of a db file by doing the following:

db_dump -p access.db

where access.db is the db file.

As an alternative for a good solid pop-before-smtp solution, you may want
to check out the drac daemon at:

http://mail.cc.umanitoba.ca/drac/index.html

There are rpm's available for dracd and qpopper (patched for use with
dracd).  All that is needed to get sendmail to work with dracd is a simple
addition of a feature() in the sendmail.mc file.  Again, the homepage
describes all of this.	We have been using dracd, qpopper and sendmail on
a very busy server without a single problem.

--
Chris Szilagyi
Network Administrator
Esphere Technologies, LLC
(254) 755-0222 x317
chris at esphere dot net

"A. M. Salim" wrote:

  Hi,

  Yes, we are indeed running dns on the same box (bind 8) and the symptoms

  are almost identical to what you describe.  Though I had not observed
the
  correlation between upstream connection being bad (if our upstream
  connection is bad, it is not bad for hours but typically minutes,
whereas
  the relaying problem lasts for hours on end once it happens).  Nor have
I
  observed 0 length databases (/etc/mail/popauth.db and
/etc/mail/access.db
  for example).

  I wonder if there is a utility for peeking into, or listing, the
contents
  of these db's?  Then when the problem happens I can at least get a look
  see into the db and see if there is a data corruption or something.

  best regards
  Mike

  > Hmm, in a way that's similar but different from the problem I run into

  > myself, but it might be rooted in the same background.  Is your server
by
  > any chance also running a dns server?  I've noticed with my setup that

  > sometimes what will happen is that the dns server will do a refresh on
a
  > list it holds, and during that time period seems to be unavailable for

  > requests, and what ends up happening is that the database for
accepting
  > relaying ends up at a 0 length until it fixes itself.  I've noticed
this
  > particularly during times when an upstream connection is bad, and my
  > incoming sendmail connections are taking a very long time to finish. 
I'm
  > not sure whether the problem is either a) sendmail not letting the
database
  > be repopulated when it's receiving a connection or b) the database
just not
  > populating properly when the dns server is having trouble for whatever

  > reason.  But for me, what ends up happening is that *all* relaying
gets
  > rejected.  Typically it doesn't clean itself up until after the net
  > connection clears up.
  >
  > This situation, while fairly rare for my setup, has led me to start
  > considering something like smtp auth instead of pop before SMTP.
  >
  >



Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:12:54 -0400
From: Forrest Aldrich <forrie at forrie dot com>
Subject: qpopper3.1b9 breakage on FreeBSD

This problem was not seen with qpopper3.1b6, but is present in qpopper3.1b9 as of today when we tried to compile:
(This is on FreeBSD-2.2.8)

gcc -c -I.. -I.. -I.  -I../mmangle -I../common  -g -O2 -freg-struct-return -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -DFREEBSD -DUNIX main.c -o main.o
In file included from main.c:34:
/usr/include/sys/resource.h:58: field `ru_utime' has incomplete type
/usr/include/sys/resource.h:59: field `ru_stime' has incomplete type
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1



_F 


From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:40:13 -0700
Subject: Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems

On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:48:52 -0500, Chris Szilagyi wrote:

>http://mail.cc.umanitoba.ca/drac/index.html
>
>There are rpm's available for dracd and qpopper (patched for use with
>dracd).  All that is needed to get sendmail to work with dracd is a simple
>addition of a feature() in the sendmail.mc file.  Again, the homepage
>describes all of this.

Where's the feature() described? I'm using 8.10 but currently I add the
map and ruleset to the end of my mc file. A more concise way of adding
DRAC support to sendmail would be nice.

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/



Subject: Re: ssl and apop together?
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 17:04:58 -0400
From: Karl Hoppel <hoppel at opt.nrl.navy dot mil>

Thanks to all who responded to my posts.
I now have both happy Outlook and Eudora users.

The solution I found for running APOP and SSL together and at the
same time denying plain-text authentication is:

1.  Run qpopper on the pop3 port configured for APOP only.

2.  Run qpopper also on an unused (nonstandard) port, configured for plain-text.

3.  Run SSLwrap on the spop3 (SSL pop3) port, configured to send
the output to the nonstandard qpopper port.

4.  If you are worried that someone may still use the nonstandard port for 
plain-text logins, then deny external access to that port using the 
tcp wrapper (assuming you have one).

Karl



Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:56:12 -0500
From: Chris Szilagyi <chris at mail.esphere dot net>
Subject: Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems

This url describes the necessary changes that need to be made to sendmail.mc:

http://mail.cc.umanitoba.ca/drac/mta.html

--
Chris Szilagyi
Network Administrator
Esphere Technologies, LLC
(254) 755-0222 x317
chris at esphere dot net


Kenneth Porter wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:48:52 -0500, Chris Szilagyi wrote:
>
> >http://mail.cc.umanitoba.ca/drac/index.html
> >
> >There are rpm's available for dracd and qpopper (patched for use with
> >dracd).  All that is needed to get sendmail to work with dracd is a simple
> >addition of a feature() in the sendmail.mc file.  Again, the homepage
> >describes all of this.
>
> Where's the feature() described? I'm using 8.10 but currently I add the
> map and ruleset to the end of my mc file. A more concise way of adding
> DRAC support to sendmail would be nice.
>
> Ken
> mailto:shiva at well dot com
> http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
> http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/





From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:13:07 -0700
Subject: Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems

On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:56:12 -0500, Chris Szilagyi wrote:

>This url describes the necessary changes that need to be made to sendmail.mc:
>
>http://mail.cc.umanitoba.ca/drac/mta.html

I had looked there and it just shows how to add the ruleset and map for
8.9.3. I don't see anything about a feature() directive in 8.10. That's
why I was confused about where the info was.

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/



Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:43:52 +1200 (NZST)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems

On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, A. M. Salim wrote:

> Yes, we are indeed running dns on the same box (bind 8) and the symptoms
> are almost identical to what you describe.  Though I had not observed the
> correlation between upstream connection being bad (if our upstream
> connection is bad, it is not bad for hours but typically minutes, whereas
> the relaying problem lasts for hours on end once it happens).  Nor have I
> observed 0 length databases (/etc/mail/popauth.db and /etc/mail/access.db
> for example).

Typically a hung makemap happens because something else is already
writing to the file concerned, or something is reading and has opened it
with a write lock.

AB


Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:45:26 +1200 (NZST)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems

On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Admin Mailing Lists wrote:

> when i used sendmail i used to have a problem of the sort. every so often
> the hash db wouldn't create. i'd have to remove the previous one, then
> create. I used to make my maps like this with a shell script and it
> worked fine:
> 
> rm /etc/junk.db
> makemap hash /etc/junk.db < /etc/junk

That can cause _major_ problems and cause bounced mail, etc

Better to do it this way:

makemap hash /etc/junk.db.new < /etc/junk
mv /etc/junk.db.new /etc/junk.db

AB



Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:07:29 +1200 (NZST)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems

On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Kenneth Porter wrote:

> Where's the feature() described? I'm using 8.10 but currently I add the
> map and ruleset to the end of my mc file. A more concise way of adding
> DRAC support to sendmail would be nice.

it's in 8.11

AB


Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 00:32:41 +0000
From: arnjuka <arnjuka at optonline dot net>
Subject: getting pop3 to answer

I've setup qpopper like they say in the INSTALL file.  I setup the
server with inetd, and put the right line in and everything.  When I try
to connect and get my mail, on the server, when I do netstat -ta under
status for pop3 it says TIME_WAIT and I get an error in netscape...

Could anyone help me out with this problem?

- juka


Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 09:01:37 -0400
From: Robert C Dege <rcd at ComptekAmherst dot com>
Subject: Change Password

Is there a way to change a mail password thru a POP3 interface?

I'm using qpopper on a linux box, and am trying to write a script that
will open a socket & change one of my user's.  From what I've read, POP3
standards don't have an explicit command to do this.  But I was
wondering if qpopper had some "extra features" that would assist me in
this task.

Does anyone have any ideas/suggestions?  True, I can execute a program
via root from within the script, but that feels grossly insecure.

-Rob

From: "Ralph Schaer" <rschaer at datacomm dot ch>
Subject: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:47:05 +0200

Hello

I'm trying to install qpopper and drac on my system. But now I have an
anoying problem.

./configure --enable-drac stops with an error message can't use DRAC:
dracauth not found in -ldrac
drac is installed. libdrac.a is in /usr/lib/drac.

I hope someone can help me. Thanks.

Ralph


From: "Troy, Frank" <ftroy at UU dot NET>
Subject: QPopper Newbie Question
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:47:52 -0400

Hi Folks,

I have another mail account/client that I am sending mail from to my
ftroy at foo dot com account.  The mail is always returned to me with the following
errors embedded in the mail message itself.

----------------------------------------------------------
The original message was received at Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:43:00 -0400
from wodc7-1.corprelay.mail.uu.net [192.48.96.68]

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<ftroy at foo dot com>
    (expanded from: <ftroy at foo dot com>)

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
553 pop.foo.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?)
554 <ftroy at foo dot com>... Local configuration error
----------------------------------------------------------

Does anyone have an idea what MX is?

Thanks
Frank





From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 13:10:47 -0700
Subject: Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac

On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:47:05 +0200, Ralph Schaer wrote:

>./configure --enable-drac stops with an error message can't use DRAC:
>dracauth not found in -ldrac
>drac is installed. libdrac.a is in /usr/lib/drac.

I had the same problem. DRAC insists on putting its library in its own
directory by itself. I just moved it to /usr/lib/libdrac.a and qpopper
found it. (My dracd SRPM does this.) Otherwise you need to change your
library path to look in the drac subdirectory.

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/



From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 13:35:35 -0700
Subject: Re: QPopper Newbie Question

On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:47:52 -0400, Troy, Frank wrote:

>553 pop.foo.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?)

That's a DNS problem, being reported by sendmail. Check the FAQ at
http://www.sendmail.org for more details.

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/



Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:17:02 -0600
Subject: Re: QPopper Newbie Question
From: "S. Jared Pedroza" <jpedroza at allbeegreen dot com>

You need to have a look at your sendmail.cf file and look for the line that
saye something like:

file containing names of hosts for which we receive email
Fw/etc/sendmail.cw

Then edit the file sendmail.cw (if that is the file that is specified) and
add a line like this:

foo.com

then you'll need to kill sendmail and restart it.

hope this helps,
Jared
-- 
Never ask a man what kind of computer he drives. If it's a Mac, he'll tell
you. If not, why embarrass him.

> From: "Troy, Frank" <ftroy at UU dot NET>
> Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:47:52 -0400
> To: qpopper at lists.pensive dot org (Subscribers of Qpopper)
> Subject: QPopper Newbie Question
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> I have another mail account/client that I am sending mail from to my
> ftroy at foo dot com account.  The mail is always returned to me with the following
> errors embedded in the mail message itself.
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> The original message was received at Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:43:00 -0400
> from wodc7-1.corprelay.mail.uu.net [192.48.96.68]
> 
> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> <ftroy at foo dot com>
> (expanded from: <ftroy at foo dot com>)
> 
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> 553 pop.foo.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?)
> 554 <ftroy at foo dot com>... Local configuration error
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Does anyone have an idea what MX is?
> 
> Thanks
> Frank
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 11:07:30 +1200 (NZST)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac

On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Ralph Schaer wrote:

> I'm trying to install qpopper and drac on my system. But now I have an
> anoying problem.
> 
> ./configure --enable-drac stops with an error message can't use DRAC:
> dracauth not found in -ldrac
> drac is installed. libdrac.a is in /usr/lib/drac.

Download and install DRAC, then try rebuilding qpopper.

AB


Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 08:35:39 +0200
From: Allan Joergensen <dw at nowhere dot dk>
Subject: Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac

At 21:47 25-08-00 +0200, Ralph Schaer wrote:'

>I'm trying to install qpopper and drac on my system. But now I have an
>anoying problem.

Which system is it (OS)?

>./configure --enable-drac stops with an error message can't use DRAC:
>dracauth not found in -ldrac
>drac is installed. libdrac.a is in /usr/lib/drac.

On some systems (like Red Hat) you put the directory into /etc/ld.so.conf 
and run ldconfig

On other systems (like my Solaris machine) it's easier to tell configure 
where to look:

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=x ./configure --y

where x is a colon seperated list of places to look for libs and y is 
whatever options you want to run configure with.

>I hope someone can help me. Thanks.

Hope this helps you,


--
Allan Joergensen (AJ1382-RIPE) - [DW] on the Undernet
Homepage: <URL:http://www.nowhere.dk/>

"It might help if we ran the MBA's out of Washington."
-- Admiral Grace Hopper


From: "InvictaNet Customer Support" <support at invictanet.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: QPopper Newbie Question
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 07:35:24 +0100

An open message to all "Newbies"

RTFM (Read the F.... Manual)
RTFF (Read the F.... FAQ)

xNIX is not windows, you can't just install a shrink wrapped package and
expect it to work first time without configuration.
This question is not a Qpopper question, it relates to sending mail -
therefore it is a Sendmail question. On the Sendmail web site there is an
faq point that answers this question exactly.
http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section4.html#4.5
Please read it. If you then are not sure what to do, please ask.

I do not intend to be "arsey" to people just starting, but please, do some
work yourselves otherwise you will never learn anything.

Martyn
-----------------------------------------------------
InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed
http://www.invictanet.co.uk
mailto:info at invictanet.co dot uk
phone: 0870 7402252
fax: +44 (0)1233 334001
------------------------------------------------------


-----Original Message-----
> From: "Troy, Frank" <ftroy at UU dot NET>
> Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:47:52 -0400
> To: qpopper at lists.pensive dot org (Subscribers of Qpopper)
> Subject: QPopper Newbie Question
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I have another mail account/client that I am sending mail from to my
> ftroy at foo dot com account.  The mail is always returned to me with the
following
> errors embedded in the mail message itself.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> The original message was received at Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:43:00 -0400
> from wodc7-1.corprelay.mail.uu.net [192.48.96.68]
>
> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> <ftroy at foo dot com>
> (expanded from: <ftroy at foo dot com>)
>
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> 553 pop.foo.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?)
> 554 <ftroy at foo dot com>... Local configuration error
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> Does anyone have an idea what MX is?
>
> Thanks
> Frank
>
>
>
>
>



Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 21:36:02 +1200 (NZST)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac

On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Kenneth Porter wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:47:05 +0200, Ralph Schaer wrote:
> 
> >./configure --enable-drac stops with an error message can't use DRAC:
> >dracauth not found in -ldrac
> >drac is installed. libdrac.a is in /usr/lib/drac.
> 
> I had the same problem. DRAC insists on putting its library in its own
> directory by itself. I just moved it to /usr/lib/libdrac.a and qpopper
> found it. (My dracd SRPM does this.) Otherwise you need to change your
> library path to look in the drac subdirectory.

Doh, I missed that part about DRAC being installed.

This is a configure script bug then.

AB


Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 08:20:47 -0600
Subject: Re: QPopper Newbie Question
From: "S. Jared Pedroza" <jpedroza at allbeegreen dot com>

As we are all former newbies, I think we could all be a little more
supportive. In the time it took you to write your your little tirade, I
simply fired off a possible solution. I read the FAQ and the manual when I
had this problem but in the end had to ask a friend for assistance. No harm,
no foul. Let's at least try to keep it civil.
Jared
-- 
MacOS X Server-Because reboots are for adding hardware.
www.apple.com

> From: "InvictaNet Customer Support" <support at invictanet.co dot uk>
> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 07:35:24 +0100
> To: qpopper at lists.pensive dot org (Subscribers of Qpopper)
> Subject: RE: QPopper Newbie Question
> 
> An open message to all "Newbies"
> 
> RTFM (Read the F.... Manual)
> RTFF (Read the F.... FAQ)
> 
> xNIX is not windows, you can't just install a shrink wrapped package and
> expect it to work first time without configuration.
> This question is not a Qpopper question, it relates to sending mail -
> therefore it is a Sendmail question. On the Sendmail web site there is an
> faq point that answers this question exactly.
> http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section4.html#4.5
> Please read it. If you then are not sure what to do, please ask.
> 
> I do not intend to be "arsey" to people just starting, but please, do some
> work yourselves otherwise you will never learn anything.
> 
> Martyn
> -----------------------------------------------------
> InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed
> http://www.invictanet.co.uk
> mailto:info at invictanet.co dot uk
> phone: 0870 7402252
> fax: +44 (0)1233 334001
> ------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Troy, Frank" <ftroy at UU dot NET>
>> Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:47:52 -0400
>> To: qpopper at lists.pensive dot org (Subscribers of Qpopper)
>> Subject: QPopper Newbie Question
>> 
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>> I have another mail account/client that I am sending mail from to my
>> ftroy at foo dot com account.  The mail is always returned to me with the
> following
>> errors embedded in the mail message itself.
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> The original message was received at Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:43:00 -0400
>> from wodc7-1.corprelay.mail.uu.net [192.48.96.68]
>> 
>> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
>> <ftroy at foo dot com>
>> (expanded from: <ftroy at foo dot com>)
>> 
>> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>> 553 pop.foo.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?)
>> 554 <ftroy at foo dot com>... Local configuration error
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Does anyone have an idea what MX is?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Frank
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 


Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:52:56 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac

At 9:36 PM +1200 8/26/00, Alan Brown wrote:

>  On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Kenneth Porter wrote:
>
>>  On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:47:05 +0200, Ralph Schaer wrote:
>>
>>  >./configure --enable-drac stops with an error message can't use DRAC:
>>  >dracauth not found in -ldrac
>>  >drac is installed. libdrac.a is in /usr/lib/drac.
>>
>>  I had the same problem. DRAC insists on putting its library in its own
>>  directory by itself. I just moved it to /usr/lib/libdrac.a and qpopper
>>  found it. (My dracd SRPM does this.) Otherwise you need to change your
>>  library path to look in the drac subdirectory.
>
>  Doh, I missed that part about DRAC being installed.
>
>  This is a configure script bug then.

How so?

Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 17:23:51 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jason Englander <jason at interl dot net>
Subject: bulldb

I know qpopper will read in the old .popbull files, but does it remove
them when it adds the info to the bulldb?

I just set up --enable-hash-spool=2 and would love to get rid of user home
directories, but I'd rather not have to either wipe the bulletins or have
everyone get the last one again (I have --with-new-bulls=1 set).

Thanks,
  Jason

-- 
Jason Englander <jason at interl dot net>
Systems Administrator - InterLink L.C.



From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 15:42:34 -0700
Subject: Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac

On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 21:36:02 +1200 (NZST), Alan Brown wrote:

>On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Kenneth Porter wrote:
>
>> I had the same problem. DRAC insists on putting its library in its own
>> directory by itself. I just moved it to /usr/lib/libdrac.a and qpopper
>> found it. (My dracd SRPM does this.) Otherwise you need to change your
>> library path to look in the drac subdirectory.
>
>Doh, I missed that part about DRAC being installed.
>This is a configure script bug then.

If so, it's DRAC's bug. The real problem is that DRAC puts its library
in a separate subdirectory. (Gary, why is that?) That effectively hides
it from the standard library search path. One must either add the
subdirectory to the system search path, or move the library up one
level to the standard directory. My solution with the dracd RPM package
was to install the library in the standard path (/usr/lib). Of course,
RPM provides an easy way to determine what package a file came from
("rpm -qif /usr/lib/libdrac.a"), so dumping it in a large directory
doesn't lose its description.

[Please don't cc replies to the list to me, I'll read them on the list.
Thanks.]

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/



Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:16:33 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: bulldb

At 5:23 PM -0500 8/26/00, Jason Englander wrote:

>  I know qpopper will read in the old .popbull files, but does it remove
>  them when it adds the info to the bulldb?

It leaves them there, but it only looks for them if the user has no 
entry in the bulldb.


From: "Ken Hodges" <ken at rabun dot net>
Subject: Getting off of this list
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 21:38:12 -0400

Can someone tell me how to get off of this list?
And yes, I have already sent an e-mail to qpopper-request at lists.pensive dot org
with unsubscribe in the body of the message.
I get an error message back in return.

Thanks,
Ken
>


Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 21:09:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed at wcug.wwu dot edu>
Subject: Re: Getting off of this list

On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Ken Hodges wrote:

> Can someone tell me how to get off of this list?
> And yes, I have already sent an e-mail to qpopper-request at lists.pensive dot org
> with unsubscribe in the body of the message.
> I get an error message back in return.

It sounds like you did the right thing (according to the webpage and the
Welcome email) -- but it usually helps to say what the error message is.

Visit:
 http://www.pensive.org/Mailing_Lists/QPopper_sub_form.html

Maybe this can help.

  Jeremy C. Reed
....................................................
     BSD software, documentation, resources, news...
     http://bsd.reedmedia.net/


Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 18:05:13 +1200 (NZST)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac

On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Qpopper Support wrote:

> >  Doh, I missed that part about DRAC being installed.
> >
> >  This is a configure script bug then.
> 
> How so?

It's not looking for the DRAC libraries in their default locations (or
common locations)

AB


Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:42:45 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac

At 6:05 PM +1200 8/27/00, Alan Brown wrote:

>  On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Qpopper Support wrote:
>
>>  >  Doh, I missed that part about DRAC being installed.
>>  >
>>  >  This is a configure script bug then.
>>
>>  How so?
>
>  It's not looking for the DRAC libraries in their default locations (or
>  common locations)
>
>  AB

The configure script doesn't have knowledge of where specific 
libraries may be; it relies on them being in places that are found by 
gcc when using '-l' switches.  Why should DRAC be different from 
every other library it checks for?

Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 13:40:00 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Getting off of this list

At 9:38 PM -0400 8/26/00, Ken Hodges wrote:

>  Can someone tell me how to get off of this list?
>  And yes, I have already sent an e-mail to qpopper-request at lists.pensive dot org
>  with unsubscribe in the body of the message.
>  I get an error message back in return.

What did the error message say?

Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:04:15 +1200 (NZST)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac

On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Qpopper Support wrote:

> The configure script doesn't have knowledge of where specific 
> libraries may be; it relies on them being in places that are found by 
> gcc when using '-l' switches.  Why should DRAC be different from 
> every other library it checks for?

Because we know that drac is installed in a non-standard location.

AB


Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:14:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jason Englander <jason at interl dot net>
Subject: Re: bulldb

On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Randall Gellens wrote:

> It leaves them there, but it only looks for them if the user has no 
> entry in the bulldb.

Anyone know of a db_dump equivalent for gdbm?

  Jason 

-- 
Jason Englander <jason at interl dot net>
Systems Administrator - InterLink L.C.



Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:57:26 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jason Englander <jason at interl dot net>
Subject: Re: bulldb

On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Jason Englander wrote:

> Anyone know of a db_dump equivalent for gdbm?

Answered my own question with Perl:

#!/usr/bin/perl
use GDBM_File;
tie(%BULLDB, 'GDBM_File', '/var/spool/bulls/bulldb', 1, 0);
while (($key,$val) = each %BULLDB) {
        print $key, ' = ', unpack('L',$val), "\n";
}
untie(%BULLDB);


-- 
Jason Englander <jason at interl dot net>
Systems Administrator - InterLink L.C.



From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:18:11 -0700
Subject: Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac

My error. The original DRAC RPM was putting the library in its own
subdirectory under the system library directory. Gary's Makefile does
not install the library from its build location. My release of the RPM
moves the library to the standard system location so qpopper's config
script will find it.

Ken

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>From: Gary Mills <mills at cc.UManitoba dot CA>
>Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 19:23:55 -0500 (CDT)
>To: shiva at well dot com
>Subject: Re: configure problem with qpopper3.1b9 and drac

[The qpopper mailing list won't let me post to it.  -Gary]

DRAC doesn't put the library anywhere.  It leaves it in the source
directory.  You are free to install it anyplace that you wish, although
it's only needed to build qpopper or another mail server.

My practice in compiling software is not to install static libraries
at all.  I just add ``-L/path/to/source/version/directory'' to the
link definitions for the software package, or an equivalent definition
to the configure script.  Other people prefer to install all static
libraries in standard locations so that the linker will find them
automatically.  It's a design decision.

-- 
-Gary Mills-    -Unix Support-    -U of M Academic Computing and
Networking-
===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE===================

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/



Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:01:57 +0200
From: Luigi Casiraghi <Luigi.Casiraghi at weitnauer dot it>
Subject: poppassd with shadow support needed

Hi all,

Do you know where I can found a poppassd for linux with support for
shadow files.

I use slackware so if it is possible I would like to use a non rpm file.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Luigi Casiraghi
luigi.casiraghi at weitnauer dot it


Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 18:28:40 +0200
Subject: authentification and bulld failure
From: "ivang@laura.prodistele.com" <ivang at laura dot prodistele dot com>

I'm on an Aix 4.2 and I have installed qpopper 3.0.2

My main problem is that AIX has shadow password system. I've tried to
compile with the --enable-especialauth but when it's finishing compilation
it gives an 

.authentication not found.

The other problem is that when I run configure with bulld option or the
bulletins option (even with or without asignating a path) it says me that
that option is not recognize.


Can anyone help me ??


thanks 

Your friend 

Iván ----------> Laf



Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:27:31 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: authentification and bulld failure

At 6:28 PM +0200 8/29/00, ivang at laura.prodistele dot com wrote:

>  I'm on an Aix 4.2 and I have installed qpopper 3.0.2
>
>  My main problem is that AIX has shadow password system. I've tried to
>  compile with the --enable-especialauth but when it's finishing compilatio=
n
>  it gives an
>
>  .authentication not found.
>
>  The other problem is that when I run configure with bulld option or the
>  bulletins option (even with or without asignating a path) it says me that
>  that option is not recognize.
>
>
>  Can anyone help me ??
>
>
>  thanks
>
>  Your friend
>
>  Iván ----------> Laf

Please try 3.1b9 and see if this is better.  If you still have 
problems, send in the exact ./configure line used, and the error 
message you get.

Be sure to unpack 3.1b9 into an empty directory -- we don't want 
config files from the failed attempt to alter anything.

Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:26:00 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: poppassd with shadow support needed

At 4:01 PM +0200 8/29/00, Luigi Casiraghi wrote:

>  Hi all,
>
>  Do you know where I can found a poppassd for linux with support for
>  shadow files.
>
>  I use slackware so if it is possible I would like to use a non rpm file.
>
>  Any help is appreciated.
>
>  Thanks in advance
>
>  Luigi Casiraghi
>  luigi.casiraghi at weitnauer dot it

The poppassd sources available on the Eudora FTP site 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix> should work, since some 
of them simply call the standard passwd program.