The qpopper list archive ending on 1 Nov 1999


Topics covered in this issue include:

  1. Re: 3.0b18 source RPM for Red Hat Linux (was:: Compiling Problems?)
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:47:18 -0700
  2. Re: your mail
       "Dooz Owings" <doozo at access1 dot net>
       Thu, 21 Oct 1999 22:29:04 -0700
  3. Re: Compiling Problems?
       Carrer Yuri <yurj at dns.alfa dot it>
       Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:12:33 +0200 (MET DST)
  4. qpopper and new ./Maildir/
       Philip Gabbert <gp at gpcentre dot net>
       Sat, 23 Oct 1999 00:03:29 -0600
  5. 554 rewrite: excessive recursion (max 50) ruleset 96
       "Technical Support" <sonia at innetix dot com>
       Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:34:30 -0700
  6. Re: 554 rewrite: excessive recursion (max 50) ruleset 96
       "A. M. Salim" <salim at localweb dot com>
       Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:50:29 -0400 (EDT)
  7. Compile errors
       "Jeff Beardsley" <jkb at rts dot com>
       Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:22:30 -0500
  8. Directory size
       "Dooz Owings" <doozo at access1 dot net>
       Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:38:15 -0700
  9. Re: Directory size
       Tomasz Orzechowski <tmo at apk dot net>
       Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:39:45 -0400
 10. 
       Jason Gindele <jgindele at verstgroup dot com>
       Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:56:41 -0500
 11. RE: Directory size
       "Najm Addous" <naddous at dimension dot net>
       Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:16:44 -0400
 12. Re: Directory size
       Tomasz Orzechowski <tmo at apk dot net>
       Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:26:53 -0400
 13. 
       Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
       Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:28:26 -0700
 14. Re: Compile errors
       Madhavi -Deleted- <madhavi at unx.dec dot com>
       Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:56:30 -0400
 15. Another mail envelope corruption problem.
       "Dooz Owings" <doozo at access1 dot net>
       Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:21:09 -0700
 16. Re: Another mail envelope corruption problem.
       "Michael D. Sofka" <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
       Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:08:52 -0400
 17. Error probe of account
       roberto.bazan at inycom dot es
       Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:57:05 +0100
 18. Re: Error probe of account
       Byron Jones <byron at vianet.net dot au>
       Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:17:03 +0800
 19. logging
       "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Philipp_Gaschütz?=" <philipp at gng dot de>
       Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:36:47 +0200
 20. error message on qpopper
       Feng Qiu <fqiu at biochem.okstate dot edu>
       Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:55:21 -0500
 21. Qpopper version 3.0b18
       "Brent L. Bates" <blbates at vigyan dot com>
       Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:17:48 -0400
 22. Qpopper Compilation Problem
       Sam Mbir-Bondzie <smbirbondzie at att dot com>
       Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:02:58 -0400
 23. Re: Qpopper Compilation Problem
       "Brent L. Bates" <blbates at vigyan dot com>
       Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:37:10 -0400
 24. Re: Qpopper Compilation Problem
       "A. M. Salim" <salim at localweb dot com>
       Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:59:23 -0400 (EDT)
 25. Re: Qpopper Compilation Problem
       Tomasz Orzechowski <tmo at apk dot net>
       Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:03:33 -0400
 26. Re: Qpopper Compilation Problem
       "A. M. Salim" <salim at localweb dot com>
       Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:31:17 -0400 (EDT)
 27. Error Message when starting up
       "Timo Hummel aka. Rune Bassman" <thummel at junior-net dot de>
       Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:11:10 +0200
 28. compiling errors
       "Eaglin, Mike" <MEaglin at hess dot com>
       Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:28:15 -0500
 29. Moving the mail spool!
       "Dooz Owings" <doozo at access1 dot net>
       Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:11:49 -0700
 30. Qpopper 3.0b19 available
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:45:32 -0700
 31. BULLDB w/ 3.0b18 & 3.0b19
       Jason Englander <jason at interl dot net>
       Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:54:41 -0500 (CDT)
 32. Makefile examples
       "Dooz Owings" <doozo at access1 dot net>
       Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:10:38 -0700
 33. [3.0b19] Compile errors
       Ayamura Kikuchi <ayamura at ayamura dot org>
       31 Oct 1999 18:57:59 +0900
 34. Different tarball structure between 3.0b18 and 3.0b19
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:10:17 -0700
 35. Re: Different tarball structure between 3.0b18 and 3.0b19
       qpopper at qualcomm dot com
       Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:28:42 -0800
 36. Re: Different tarball structure between 3.0b18 and 3.0b19
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:52:57 +1300 (NZDT)
 37. Re: Moving the mail spool!
       "Michael D. Sofka" <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
       Mon, 01 Nov 1999 11:07:46 -0500
 38. Re: Moving the mail spool!
       Tomasz Orzechowski <tmo at apk dot net>
       Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:14:55 -0500
 39. Re: compiling errors
       Terje Bless <link at tss dot no>
       Mon,  1 Nov 1999 17:16:48 +0100
 40. Re: Moving the mail spool!
       "Michael D. Sofka" <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
       Mon, 01 Nov 1999 11:37:07 -0500
 41. Re: Moving the mail spool!
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Tue, 2 Nov 1999 05:48:01 +1300 (NZDT)
 42. Accounting and ETRN
       "Alexander Waller" <a.waller at webpoint dot at>
       Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:06:17 +0100
 43. Re: compiling errors
       Tomasz Orzechowski <tmo at apk dot net>
       Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:07:10 -0500
 44. Re: compiling errors
       Rusty Louis <RustyL at mail.eatel dot com>
       Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:29:32 -0600 
 45. Re: Moving the mail spool!
       "Dooz Owings" <doozo at access1 dot net>
       Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:29:43 -0800
 46. Re: Moving the mail spool!
       Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
       Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:14:09 -0500 (EST)
 47. Re: Accounting and ETRN
       Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
       Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:20:13 -0500 (EST)
 48. Re: Accounting and ETRN
       Tomasz Orzechowski <tmo at apk dot net>
       Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:45:10 -0500
 49. Fw: Accounting and ETRN
       "Jeff Halper" <jeff at ihot dot com>
       Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:19:50 -0800
 50. Re: Moving the mail spool!
       Terje Bless <link at tss dot no>
       Mon,  1 Nov 1999 21:56:28 +0100

From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:47:18 -0700
Subject: Re: 3.0b18 source RPM for Red Hat Linux (was:: Compiling Problems?)

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 18:25:32 -0500, Nicholas A. Marouf wrote:

>I would be very interested in getting a copy of the rpm file and the spec file.
>I appreciate it.

I just uploaded them to:

http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/qpopper-3.0b18-1.src.rpm (2.4 mb)
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/qpopper3.0.spec (1.7kb)

The source RPM includes the spec file and the tar.gz from the Eudora
FTP site. If you've already downloaded the tar.gz, just grab the spec
file. You may wish to change the parameters of the configure command in
the spec file to select different options.

I encourage feedback.

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.215Now.com/



From: "Dooz Owings" <doozo at access1 dot net>
Subject: Re: your mail
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 22:29:04 -0700

I see what you are saying and I think I understand. but here is the problem
I have a domain with 40,000 people that get there mail. I set up there
E-mail acound with the master.passwd, userconf, or adduser script. That
takes care of my primary domain no problems everything works great!!! Now my
question, I have 350 hosted domains with user lists and passwords for each
of them when the log into the popper it needs to know what domain the user
is logging into. Most email server programs work a login like
username at primary_domain dot com and password, and hosted domain useres log in
using username at hosted_domain dot com, Can Qpopper work like this? there has to
be a way.


Dooz Owings

-----Original Message-----
From: Tomasz Orzechowski <tmo at apk dot net>
To: Dooz Owings <doozo at access1 dot net>
Cc: Subscribers of Qpopper <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: your mail


>Dooz Owings wrote on Wed, Oct 20, 1999 at 11:36:21PM -0700:i
>> How does qpopper read a user name and password from a second domain on
the
>> same mail server? What happens if domain 1 has a billy@domain_a, and
domain
>> B has a billy@domain_b. I know sendmail will catch the mail but popper
has
>> to have a different dir for the second billy.. What am I missing?
>
>The difference between an email address and a UNIX username - they
>are NOT the same thing by no means.
>
>Hint - the mail for billy@dom_a can go to user billy and mail for
>billy@domain_b can go to user billyb.
>--
>Tomasz Orzechowski                                           tmo at apk dot net
>APK.net systems administration team                                TO630
>
>


Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:12:33 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Carrer Yuri <yurj at dns.alfa dot it>
Subject: Re: Compiling Problems?

 qpopper 3.1.X is out???



Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 00:03:29 -0600
Subject: qpopper and new ./Maildir/
From: Philip Gabbert <gp at gpcentre dot net>

I finally think I've gotten everything working with qmail and now I jsut
realized, does qpopper have support for the new ./Maildir/ style mail
directories?

Is there a patch or anything that I can use? Or, is there a POP server that
support for it that I can use until qpopper catches up?


Thnx.

Philip


From: "Technical Support" <sonia at innetix dot com>
Subject: 554 rewrite: excessive recursion (max 50) ruleset 96
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:34:30 -0700

Hi

I hope someone can help me with following error message while sending email
"554 rewrite: excessive recursion (max 50) ruleset 96" .

Thanks,
Sonia.

-----------------------------------
  Technical Support
      Innetix Inc.
    408.793.2800
  sonia at innetix dot com

----- Original Message -----
From: Philip Gabbert <gp at gpcentre dot net>
To: Subscribers of Qpopper <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Friday, October 22, 1999 11:03 PM
Subject: qpopper and new ./Maildir/


> I finally think I've gotten everything working with qmail and now I jsut
> realized, does qpopper have support for the new ./Maildir/ style mail
> directories?
>
> Is there a patch or anything that I can use? Or, is there a POP server
that
> support for it that I can use until qpopper catches up?
>
>
> Thnx.
>
> Philip
>


Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:50:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: "A. M. Salim" <salim at localweb dot com>
Subject: Re: 554 rewrite: excessive recursion (max 50) ruleset 96

Hi,

> I hope someone can help me with following error message while sending
> email "554 rewrite: excessive recursion (max 50) ruleset 96" .

This is a sendmail error message ... check your /etc/alias,
/etc/mail/virtusertable, /etc/sendmail.cw files etc.  Somewhere there is a
configuration error.


From: "Jeff Beardsley" <jkb at rts dot com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:22:30 -0500
Subject: Compile errors

<color><param>0100,0100,0100</param>Hello -


I am unable to compile version 3.0 on Solaris.


Here is the error message from make:


<FontFamily><param>Courier New</param><smaller>cc -c -I.. -I.. -I. -I../mmangle -g -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -DSOLARIS2 -
DAUTH_SPECIAL -DGNU_PASS -DNO_GETLINE -DCONTENT_LENGTH=1 -DUNIX 
pop_user.c -o pop_user.o

"pop_user.c", line 210: identifier redeclared: downcase_uname      
                                                                 

        current : function() returning void                        
                                                                 

        previous: function() returning int : "pop_user.c", line 74 
                                                                 

cc: acomp failed for pop_user.c                                    

*** Error code 2                                                   

make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `pop_user.o'          

                                                              

<FontFamily><param>Calisto MT</param><bigger>Can anyone help?


Thanks,


<nofill>
Jeff Beardsley
Systems Administrator
Real-Time USA, Inc.
Phone: (630)571-9500
Fax:   (630)571-3785
Email: jkb at rts dot com

From: "Dooz Owings" <doozo at access1 dot net>
Subject: Directory size
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:38:15 -0700

I am using the latest version of Qpopper on FreeBSD with no problems. The
set up was a snap. and it works without a hitch. I need to limit the user's
mail directory to 10meg, is there a way to do this. and give a bounce
message to the sender.


                                                                   Dooz
Owings


Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:39:45 -0400
From: Tomasz Orzechowski <tmo at apk dot net>
Subject: Re: Directory size

Dooz Owings wrote on Tue, Oct 26, 1999 at 10:38:15AM -0700:i
> I am using the latest version of Qpopper on FreeBSD with no problems. The
> set up was a snap. and it works without a hitch. I need to limit the user's
> mail directory to 10meg, is there a way to do this. and give a bounce
> message to the sender.

man -k quota
-- 
Tomasz Orzechowski                                           tmo at apk dot net
APK.net systems administration team                                TO630


Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:56:41 -0500
From: Jason Gindele <jgindele at verstgroup dot com>

I am getting the error 

Oct 26 13:54:53 vghp9 popper[4336]: (v2.53) Unable to get canonical name of
client, err = 239.

I can do forward and reverse lookups using nslookup.  Any ideas?


From: "Najm Addous" <naddous at dimension dot net>
Subject: RE: Directory size
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:16:44 -0400

Tom,
This would contol quota on users home directories. However, can we limit
users Mialbox size(i.e \var\spool\mqueue)?
Sendmail can do a system-wide quota contol, but I believe Indvidual qutotas
is not an option?
somebody knok me on the haed if I'm wrong!

-Najm
-----Original Message-----
From: Tomasz Orzechowski [mailto:tmo at apk dot net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 1:40 PM
To: Dooz Owings
Cc: Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: Re: Directory size


Dooz Owings wrote on Tue, Oct 26, 1999 at 10:38:15AM -0700:i
> I am using the latest version of Qpopper on FreeBSD with no problems. The
> set up was a snap. and it works without a hitch. I need to limit the
user's
> mail directory to 10meg, is there a way to do this. and give a bounce
> message to the sender.

man -k quota
--
Tomasz Orzechowski                                           tmo at apk dot net
APK.net systems administration team                                TO630



Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:26:53 -0400
From: Tomasz Orzechowski <tmo at apk dot net>
Subject: Re: Directory size

Najm Addous wrote on Tue, Oct 26, 1999 at 02:16:44PM -0400:i
> Tom,
> This would contol quota on users home directories. However, can we limit
> users Mialbox size(i.e \var\spool\mqueue)?
> Sendmail can do a system-wide quota contol, but I believe Indvidual qutotas
> is not an option?
> somebody knok me on the haed if I'm wrong!

a) quotas on the /var/spool/mail directory (not mqueue, mqueue is the
outgoing queue for sendmail not popper)
b) home directory mailboxes

b is far better then a

'quota exceeded' should always be a 550 error, so the other side does not
attempt redelivery in 15 minutes or so.

ps. if you do UNIX, do leave the Windoz world... 
-- 
Tomasz Orzechowski                                           tmo at apk dot net
APK.net systems administration team                                TO630

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:28:26 -0700
From: Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
Subject: 

At 1:56 PM -0500 10/26/99, Jason Gindele wrote:
>I am getting the error
>
>Oct 26 13:54:53 vghp9 popper[4336]: (v2.53) Unable to get canonical name of
>client, err = 239.
>
>I can do forward and reverse lookups using nslookup.  Any ideas?

Are you using nslookup for this? If so, that doesn't necessarily mean 
that your OS'es resolver is setup properly or working correctly. Be 
sure that your resolver is using DNS.

-- Leonard


Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:56:30 -0400
From: Madhavi -Deleted- <madhavi at unx.dec dot com>
Subject: Re: Compile errors

I get the same error when I compile it in the Digital Unix Environment.
It cpmplains  about line 74: downcase_uname (p, p->pop_parm[1])

that it does not have the same paramaters as declared in the function
line 210 :void downcase_uname (p, q)
      210  POP                * p;
      211  char               *    q;
      212  {
                                      -madhavi


Jeff Beardsley wrote:

> Hello -
>
> I am unable to compile version 3.0 on Solaris.
>
> Here is the error message from make:
>
> cc -c -I.. -I.. -I. -I../mmangle -g -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DSOLARIS2 - DAUTH_SPECIAL -DGNU_PASS -DNO_GETLINE -DCONTENT_LENGTH=1 -DUNIX pop_user.c -o pop_user.o
> "pop_user.c", line 210: identifier redeclared: downcase_uname
>
> current : function() returning void
>
> previous: function() returning int : "pop_user.c", line 74
>
> cc: acomp failed for pop_user.c
> *** Error code 2
> make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `pop_user.o'
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff Beardsley Systems Administrator Real-Time USA, Inc. Phone: (630)571-9500 Fax: (630)571-3785 Email: jkb at rts dot com



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From: "Dooz Owings" <doozo at access1 dot net>
Subject: Another mail envelope corruption problem.
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:21:09 -0700

I am getting this error for one of my usersand I can not fix it. I went into
the spool and deleated all of the mail after I made a copy to a different
dir then I try to log in and get the same message even when it should read 0
0 0 0 I get the error. I send a test message to the person it gets there
fine but I get the same message. Is it possable that the message is in the
temp que. Where is this temp file. I can not find it.


Dooz Owings


Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:08:52 -0400
From: "Michael D. Sofka" <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
Subject: Re: Another mail envelope corruption problem.

Look for the pop lock file, usually .<user>.pop (preceeding '.').  The
dot keeps if from showing up in unix ls lists, use ls -A to show the
lock files.  They are usually kept in the mail spool directory, but
that can be changed while compiling popper.

Mike

At 10:21 AM 10/27/99 -0700, Dooz Owings wrote:
>I am getting this error for one of my usersand I can not fix it. I went into
>the spool and deleated all of the mail after I made a copy to a different
>dir then I try to log in and get the same message even when it should read 0
>0 0 0 I get the error. I send a test message to the person it gets there
>fine but I get the same message. Is it possable that the message is in the
>temp que. Where is this temp file. I can not find it.
>
>
>Dooz Owings

--
Michael D. Sofka                       sofkam at rpi dot edu
CIS/SSS Sr. Systems Programmer  AFS/DFS, email, listproc, TeX, epistemology.
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.    http://www.rpi.edu/~sofkam/


From: roberto.bazan at inycom dot es
Subject: Error probe of account
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:57:05 +0100

Hi,
Does Anybody know this error?

Possible probe of account ayto087 from host ifv243.inycom.es

Thanks in advance

Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:17:03 +0800
From: Byron Jones <byron at vianet.net dot au>
Subject: Re: Error probe of account

>Does Anybody know this error?
>
>Possible probe of account ayto087 from host ifv243.inycom.es


this means the pop connection was closed after sending a USER command but 
before sending a PASS command.


-- byron jones ----------------------
    systems administrator
    vianet australia
    http://www.vianet.net.au/~byron


From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Philipp_Gaschütz?=" <philipp at gng dot de>
Subject: logging
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:36:47 +0200

hey all!

I`ve been fiddling around with this for quite a time now... can anyone
help me in this matter?

I`m trying to make qpopper log every activities (or at least the
logons).

Anyone please know how to do that?

Thank you

-philipp


Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:55:21 -0500
From: Feng Qiu <fqiu at biochem.okstate dot edu>
Subject: error message on qpopper

Hello, all,
I use sendmail8.9.3 with qpopper2.5.3. One of my user has problem since
Yesterday afternoon. He can receive messages with some error displayed
on eudora. He can not send messages, eudora will give the error:

There has been an error tranferring your mail,
I said: DATA
and then the SMTP server said:
503 Need RCPT (recipient)

But I don't have any problem to use my account on same server.
Anyone know what is wrong?
Thanks!
Feng Qiu


From: "Brent L. Bates" <blbates at vigyan dot com>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:17:48 -0400
Subject: Qpopper version 3.0b18

     Has anyone tried to fix the gross source errors/bugs in Qpopper version
3.0b18?  I'm trying to compile this `lastest and greatest' version of Qpopper,
as I've been told it is `so much better than version 2.5', on a SGI using
their ANSI compliant C compiler and I'm running into some glaringly bad bugs.
 Before I put any more effort into fixing these bugs, I was just wondering if
someone else has already fixed this problems.  Thanks.

-- 

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  Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(b)(1)(C), Sec.227(a)(2)(B)
  This email address may not be added to any commercial mail list with out
  my permission.  Violation of my privacy with advertising or SPAM will
  result in a suit for a MINIMUM of $500 damages/incident, $1500 for repeats.

Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:02:58 -0400
From: Sam Mbir-Bondzie <smbirbondzie at att dot com>
Subject: Qpopper Compilation Problem

Hello,

I am trying to install qpopper 2.53 or 3.0 on an sgi Irix 6.5.x.  When I
run the ./configure is the directory where the source code are I get the
following output

X:#:qpopper2.53 ./configure

creating cache ./config.cache
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc... cc
checking whether the C compiler (cc  ) works... no
configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler
cannot create executables.

Seriously need help.

Samuel Bondzie





From: "Brent L. Bates" <blbates at vigyan dot com>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:37:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Qpopper Compilation Problem

   It has been a while since I compiled version 2.53 and I didn't keep as good
of notes as I would have liked to have, but here is what I've got.  I'd do
things a bit differently now.

Here are some source file bugs I've corrected:

     Editted pop_dropcopy.c changed line 727 to read (missing `int'):

             register int i;

     Editted pop_init.c and moved the following line:

                     trace_file_name = optarg;

        before DEBUG.

     Editted pop_lower.c and made function `void'.

     Editted pop_pass.c and changed line 614 to read:

         if ((p->kerberos ? auth_user_kerberos(p, &pw) : auth_user(p, pwp))
                                                  ^
                                                  |--- missing

     Editted pop_send.c and made function pop_sendline `void' and added
       prototype near top of file.

     Editted pop_xmit.c and made function pop_xmit_recv `void'.

     Editted pop_xmit.c and made function pop_xmit_clean `void'.

     Editted popper.h and changed pop_xmit_recv from `int' to `void'


I ran `configure' twice both times with this command:

configure --enable-bulletins=/var/mail/Bulletins --enable-debugging
--enable-apop=/etc/pop.auth --with-popuid=pop --enable-servermode

Before running it the second time, I editted the config.cache file and told
it NO `-lsocket'.  I also editted the `configure' file itself and commmented
out the lines for selecting /usr/mail as the mail directory.  /usr/mail is a
symbolic link to /var/mail and I'd rather it use the real directory instead
of the symbolic link.  I think configure should check for a symbolic link and
skip the file if it is one and then keep looking.

Try checking your `config.log' file for more detail information on what went
wrong.

Hope this helps some.


-- 

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:59:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: "A. M. Salim" <salim at localweb dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper Compilation Problem

don't know about the stability of qpopper30b18 ... I have seen several
people on this list saying they are using it no problem works great.  We
have tried it on two servers so far with instability in both cases.

On one, we started getting mysteriously *HUGE* .pop files (380 megabytes
in size!).  We had to quickly revert back to qpopper3.0b12 on that one,
which behaved better.  This was a Linux RedHat system, 5.0

On the other system, Linux RedHat 6.0, newly installed system, working
fine otherwise, we started getting kernel panics in ipop3d (soft link to
popper3.0b18) reverting back to popper2.53 fixed it.


Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:03:33 -0400
From: Tomasz Orzechowski <tmo at apk dot net>
Subject: Re: Qpopper Compilation Problem

> On one, we started getting mysteriously *HUGE* .pop files (380 megabytes
> in size!).  We had to quickly revert back to qpopper3.0b12 on that one,
> which behaved better.  This was a Linux RedHat system, 5.0

You probably enabled server mode but people were popping and modifying
their mailboxes at the same time, which is a nono.

> On the other system, Linux RedHat 6.0, newly installed system, working
> fine otherwise, we started getting kernel panics in ipop3d (soft link to
> popper3.0b18) reverting back to popper2.53 fixed it.

Kernel panics in ipop3d ?  How do you figure?
-- 
Tomasz Orzechowski                                           tmo at apk dot net
APK.net systems administration team                                TO630


Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:31:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: "A. M. Salim" <salim at localweb dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper Compilation Problem

Hi,

> Kernel panics in ipop3d ?  How do you figure?

Good question ... unfortunately we do not have the dump anymore, but
somewehere in the panic screen dump, ipop3d was named ... perhaps because
it was among many other processes that were running at the time or perhaps
because something in ipop3d caused the kernel to panic, do not know.

We do know that after reverting back to 2.53 we did not get any more
kernel panics.

regards
Mike


From: "Timo Hummel aka. Rune Bassman" <thummel at junior-net dot de>
Subject: Error Message when starting up
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:11:10 +0200

Hi!

When I run popper from the command line, it tells me this:
Oct 28 21:03:07 DrSnuggles popper[351]: Unable to obtain socket and address
of client, err = 88

When I run it from inetd, nothing happens...where can I start debugging?

Yours,
Timo


From: "Eaglin, Mike" <MEaglin at hess dot com>
Subject: compiling errors
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:28:15 -0500

When compiling qpopper on Solaris 7 with "make"( intel ) I get this error.
The "configure" works. Does anyone know how to fix this?
	>  This is 3.0b18. Here are the details from the "make"
	>  sh: ar: not found
	>  *** Error code 1
	>  make: Fatal error: Command failed for target 'libmangle.a'
	>  Current working directory /var/spool/pkg/qpopper3.0/mmangle
	>  *** Error code 1
	>  make: Fatal error: Command failed for target 'mangler_library'
	>  Current working directory /var/spool/pkg/qpopper3.0/popper
	>  *** Error code 1
	>  make: Fatal error: Command failed for target 'popper_server'
Thanks,

From: "Dooz Owings" <doozo at access1 dot net>
Subject: Moving the mail spool!
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:11:49 -0700

I was thinking about moving my mail spool from /var/mail to
/usr/home/userdir. is there any problems that may arise when I do this? Also
I will be switching to server mode, After reading over the Qpopper Readme it
seems like all this can be done but I dont know how successful it has gone.
I was told that a lot of problems pop up when qpopper is recompiled,
although I have not had any problems I keep waiting for them to pop up. Also
when I repoint the mail spool to /usr/home/user, how does Qpopper know what
home dir to put the mail in?


                                                 Dooz Owings


Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:45:32 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Qpopper 3.0b19 available

Qpopper 3.0b19 is available at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.

Changes:

1.  Mangling speed-up, don't send MIME headers when doing a TOP 0.
2.  Fix order dependency of MIME-Version and Content-* headers in 
MIME Mangling.
3.  Fix typo ("_" instead of "-") in INSTALL file.
4.  Fixed 'make realclean' to remove popauth.


Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:54:41 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jason Englander <jason at interl dot net>
Subject: BULLDB w/ 3.0b18 & 3.0b19

I get the following error when trying to compile Qpopper 3.0b18 or
3.0b19 with BULLDB:


gcc -c -I.. -I.. -I. -I../mmangle -g -O2 -fstrength-reduce
-fpcc-struct-return
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DBULLDB  -DLINUX -DUNIX pop_bull.c -o pop_bull.o
pop_bull.c: In function `pop_bull':
pop_bull.c:172: `LOCK_EX' undeclared (first use in this function)
pop_bull.c:172: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
pop_bull.c:172: for each function it appears in.)
pop_bull.c:179: `LOCK_UN' undeclared (first use in this function)
make[1]: *** [pop_bull.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/qpopper3.0/popper'
make: *** [popper_server] Error 2


Same problem with egcs-2.91.66 and gcc 2.7.2.3  The machine is a PII 450
running Linux 2.2.12 (Slackware 4.0).  I've got GNU libgdbm 1.7.3
libndbm.so and libdbm.so are symlinks to /lib/libgdbm.so.1.7.3

I get the same error on a PII 400 running Linux 2.0.35 (Slackware
3.3).  It also has GNU libgdbm 1.7.3

I do NOT get this error with qpopper 2.53

Anyone more C literate than I with a fix for it?

  Thanks,
  Jason

-- 
Jason Englander <jason at interl dot net>
Systems Administrator - InterLink L.C.



From: "Dooz Owings" <doozo at access1 dot net>
Subject: Makefile examples
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:10:38 -0700

I need to use some of the macros avalable for the qpopper file mostly the
HOMEDIR but I am unsure where or how to state it in the file.

                                                    Dooz Owings


Subject: [3.0b19] Compile errors
From: Ayamura Kikuchi <ayamura at ayamura dot org>
Date: 31 Oct 1999 18:57:59 +0900

I got the following errors when trying to compile Qpopper-3.0b19
on IRIX-6.2 with IDO-7.1's cc.

(1) 
% cc -c -I.. -I. -I../mmangle -cckr -w -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DIRIX -DUNIX pop_auth.c -o pop_auth.o
cfe: Error: pop_auth.c, line 412: Subscripting an array of incomplete type which is not an object type.
              (ddatum.dsize != (i+strlen(&ddatum.dptr[i])+1))) ||
 ----------------------------------------------------^
cfe: Error: pop_auth.c, line 413: Subscripting an array of incomplete type which is not an object type.
            (decode64( &ddatum.dptr[i],      ddatum.dsize-i ,
 ----------------------------------^

(2) 
% cc -c -I.. -I. -I../mmangle -cckr -w -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DIRIX -DUNIX pop_user.c -o pop_user.o 
cfe: Error: pop_user.c, line 191: Reference of an expression of void type or an incomplete type.
                 (*value.dptr     ||
 -----------------^
cfe: Error: pop_user.c, line 209: redeclaration of 'downcase_uname'; previous declaration at line 74 in file 'pop_user.c'
 void downcase_uname (p, q)
 -----^
cfe: Error: pop_user.c, line 209: Incompatible function return type for this function.
 void downcase_uname (p, q)
 --------------------^

-- ayamura

From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:10:17 -0700
Subject: Different tarball structure between 3.0b18 and 3.0b19

Why did the tarball directory tree change between 3.0b18 and 3.0b19? In
3.0b18, the root of the tree was ./qpopper3.0, while in 3.0b19, the
root is the top-level build directory (ie. one level deeper than
before). I prefer the former layout, as it unpacks everything into a
single new directory. The b19 layout requires that I first create the
directory, cd into it, then unpack the tarball.

Also, I'd prefer that the root dir be named after the full version,
including the beta number, so that I can unpack each tarball into a
uniquely-named directory for independent building and comparison.
"qpopper3.0" can be a symbolic link to the latest version.

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.215Now.com/



Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:28:42 -0800
From: qpopper at qualcomm dot com
Subject: Re: Different tarball structure between 3.0b18 and 3.0b19

At 10:10 AM -0700 10/31/99, Kenneth Porter wrote:

>  Why did the tarball directory tree change between 3.0b18 and 3.0b19? In
>  3.0b18, the root of the tree was ./qpopper3.0, while in 3.0b19, the
>  root is the top-level build directory (ie. one level deeper than
>  before). I prefer the former layout, as it unpacks everything into a
>  single new directory. The b19 layout requires that I first create the
>  directory, cd into it, then unpack the tarball.

This was an accident.  I'll create a b20 which corrects this.

>  Also, I'd prefer that the root dir be named after the full version,
>  including the beta number, so that I can unpack each tarball into a
>  uniquely-named directory for independent building and comparison.
>  "qpopper3.0" can be a symbolic link to the latest version.

If no one objects, I'll see about doing this as well.  It might make 
it more inconvenient for those who overwrite each beta, though.

Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:52:57 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: Different tarball structure between 3.0b18 and 3.0b19

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 qpopper at qualcomm dot com wrote:

> If no one objects, I'll see about doing this as well.  It might make 
> it more inconvenient for those who overwrite each beta, though.

diff -ur is your friend.

And it saves having config files overwritten.

AB



Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 11:07:46 -0500
From: "Michael D. Sofka" <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
Subject: Re: Moving the mail spool!

At 04:11 PM 10/29/99 -0700, Dooz Owings wrote:
>I was thinking about moving my mail spool from /var/mail to
>/usr/home/userdir. is there any problems that may arise when I do this? Also
>I will be switching to server mode, After reading over the Qpopper Readme it
>seems like all this can be done but I dont know how successful it has gone.
>I was told that a lot of problems pop up when qpopper is recompiled,
>although I have not had any problems I keep waiting for them to pop up. Also
>when I repoint the mail spool to /usr/home/user, how does Qpopper know what
>home dir to put the mail in?

If you're putting the spool in home directories, you won't be able to
run server mode.  Server mode assumes that the only change made
to a mailbox during a popper run, is appending new messages at the
end.  With mailboxes in /home, users can run non-pop clients, which
would violate this assumption.

To change the spool location with popper, edit config.h so that
POP_MAILDIR points to the new location.  You'll have to change
the spool location for the local delivery program.

Mike

--
Michael D. Sofka                       sofkam at rpi dot edu
CIS/SSS Sr. Systems Programmer  AFS/DFS, email, listproc, TeX, epistemology.
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.    http://www.rpi.edu/~sofkam/


Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:14:55 -0500
From: Tomasz Orzechowski <tmo at apk dot net>
Subject: Re: Moving the mail spool!

Michael D. Sofka wrote on Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 11:07:46AM -0500:i
> At 04:11 PM 10/29/99 -0700, Dooz Owings wrote:
> >I was thinking about moving my mail spool from /var/mail to
> >/usr/home/userdir. is there any problems that may arise when I do this? Also
> >I will be switching to server mode, After reading over the Qpopper Readme it
> >seems like all this can be done but I dont know how successful it has gone.
> >I was told that a lot of problems pop up when qpopper is recompiled,
> >although I have not had any problems I keep waiting for them to pop up. Also
> >when I repoint the mail spool to /usr/home/user, how does Qpopper know what
> >home dir to put the mail in?
> If you're putting the spool in home directories, you won't be able to
> run server mode.  Server mode assumes that the only change made
> to a mailbox during a popper run, is appending new messages at the
> end.  With mailboxes in /home, users can run non-pop clients, which
> would violate this assumption.

Huh?  I can mess up my mailbox in /var/mail (or /var/spool/mail) as
easily as I can in /u/tm/tmo (or /home/tmo) and so can any other user
with accecc other than POP (ie. IMAP, shell, ftp, etc.) and the location
of the mailbox itself doesn't mean anything.

Or am I missing something?
-- 
Tomasz Orzechowski                                           tmo at apk dot net
APK.net systems administration team                                TO630


Date: Mon,  1 Nov 1999 17:16:48 +0100
From: Terje Bless <link at tss dot no>
Subject: Re: compiling errors

On 28.10.99 at 15:28, Eaglin, Mike <MEaglin at hess dot com> wrote:

>When compiling qpopper on Solaris 7 with "make"( intel ) I get this error.
>The "configure" works. Does anyone know how to fix this?
>   >  This is 3.0b18. Here are the details from the "make"
>   >  sh: ar: not found

I would expect it's because ar is not in sh's $PATH. It's been a while
since I used Solaris, but IIRC these binaries were in a somewhat strange
place. Find it ("find /usr -name ar -print" should help) and make sure the
directory it's in is mentioned somewhere in the output from "echo $PATH".
Otherwise, do "setenv PATH "${PATH}:/path/to/ar/dir". Do not include the
name of the executable ("ar") in the setenv command. HTH.



Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 11:37:07 -0500
From: "Michael D. Sofka" <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
Subject: Re: Moving the mail spool!

At 11:14 AM 11/1/99 -0500, Tomasz Orzechowski wrote:
>Michael D. Sofka wrote on Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 11:07:46AM -0500:i
> > At 04:11 PM 10/29/99 -0700, Dooz Owings wrote:
> > >I was thinking about moving my mail spool from /var/mail to
> > >/usr/home/userdir. is there any problems that may arise when I do this? Also
> > >I will be switching to server mode, After reading over the Qpopper Readme it
> > >seems like all this can be done but I dont know how successful it has gone.
> > >I was told that a lot of problems pop up when qpopper is recompiled,
> > >although I have not had any problems I keep waiting for them to pop up. Also
> > >when I repoint the mail spool to /usr/home/user, how does Qpopper know what
> > >home dir to put the mail in?
> > If you're putting the spool in home directories, you won't be able to
> > run server mode.  Server mode assumes that the only change made
> > to a mailbox during a popper run, is appending new messages at the
> > end.  With mailboxes in /home, users can run non-pop clients, which
> > would violate this assumption.
>
>Huh?  I can mess up my mailbox in /var/mail (or /var/spool/mail) as
>easily as I can in /u/tm/tmo (or /home/tmo) and so can any other user
>with accecc other than POP (ie. IMAP, shell, ftp, etc.) and the location
>of the mailbox itself doesn't mean anything.

BIngo.  Local access to the mail spool violates
the servermode assumption, regardless of how that
local access comes about. (E.g., shell accounts on
the mail machine, or putting mail in home directories.)

>Or am I missing something?

Nope, you got it.

Mike

--
Michael D. Sofka                       sofkam at rpi dot edu
CIS/SSS Sr. Systems Programmer  AFS/DFS, email, listproc, TeX, epistemology.
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.    http://www.rpi.edu/~sofkam/


Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 05:48:01 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: Moving the mail spool!

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Michael D. Sofka wrote:

> BIngo.  Local access to the mail spool violates
> the servermode assumption, regardless of how that
> local access comes about. (E.g., shell accounts on
> the mail machine, or putting mail in home directories.)

If there's some way to lock the file so that qpopper has exclusive
access to it - and is denied access when something else has the file, 
then that should allow server mode to continue to be used.

AB


From: "Alexander Waller" <a.waller at webpoint dot at>
Subject: Accounting and ETRN
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:06:17 +0100

Hi !
This is my second attempt to get Informations on mailaccounting.
I got some replies but they didn¥t lead me to a solution.
So pleas be so kind and try to help me.

I have :
Linux
Sendmail
qpopper

I need :
Informations on how to establish mail-accounting. Any hints or links are
wellcome.


Now I add another question. Maybee I am offtopic here but the people here
maybee can help me.

I have to queue mail for a customer. He wants then to get the mail via etrn
command via smtp-protocoll.
Has anyone a solution for that.

Thanx. Alex.


+------------------------------------------+
+ Alex Waller                              +
+ WebPoint                                 +
+ Internet-Services                        +
+ A-6840 G–tzis                            +
+ Mobil +43 676 4121128                    +
+ http://www.webpoint.at                   +
+------------------------------------------+



Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:07:10 -0500
From: Tomasz Orzechowski <tmo at apk dot net>
Subject: Re: compiling errors

Terje Bless wrote on Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 05:16:48PM +0100:i
> On 28.10.99 at 15:28, Eaglin, Mike <MEaglin at hess dot com> wrote:
> >When compiling qpopper on Solaris 7 with "make"( intel ) I get this error.
> >The "configure" works. Does anyone know how to fix this?
> >   >  This is 3.0b18. Here are the details from the "make"
> >   >  sh: ar: not found
> I would expect it's because ar is not in sh's $PATH. It's been a while
> since I used Solaris, but IIRC these binaries were in a somewhat strange
> place. Find it ("find /usr -name ar -print" should help) and make sure the
> directory it's in is mentioned somewhere in the output from "echo $PATH".
> Otherwise, do "setenv PATH "${PATH}:/path/to/ar/dir". Do not include the
> name of the executable ("ar") in the setenv command. HTH.

/usr/ccs/bin

when compiling stuff, it is also handy to have /usr/openwin/bin in
$PATH since often this will permit X11-enabled versions of apps to
be built.
-- 
Tomasz Orzechowski                                           tmo at apk dot net
APK.net systems administration team                                TO630


From: Rusty Louis <RustyL at mail.eatel dot com>
Subject: Re: compiling errors
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:29:32 -0600 

You need to have /usr/ccs/bin in your sh path.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Terje Bless [SMTP:link at tss dot no]
> Sent:	Monday, November 01, 1999 10:17 AM
> To:	qpopper at lists.pensive dot org
> Subject:	Re: compiling errors
> 
> On 28.10.99 at 15:28, Eaglin, Mike <MEaglin at hess dot com> wrote:
> 
> >When compiling qpopper on Solaris 7 with "make"( intel ) I get this
> error.
> >The "configure" works. Does anyone know how to fix this?
> >   >  This is 3.0b18. Here are the details from the "make"
> >   >  sh: ar: not found
> 
> I would expect it's because ar is not in sh's $PATH. It's been a while
> since I used Solaris, but IIRC these binaries were in a somewhat strange
> place. Find it ("find /usr -name ar -print" should help) and make sure the
> directory it's in is mentioned somewhere in the output from "echo $PATH".
> Otherwise, do "setenv PATH "${PATH}:/path/to/ar/dir". Do not include the
> name of the executable ("ar") in the setenv command. HTH.
> 

From: "Dooz Owings" <doozo at access1 dot net>
Subject: Re: Moving the mail spool!
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:29:43 -0800

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
To: Michael D. Sofka <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
Cc: Subscribers of Qpopper <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
Date: Monday, November 01, 1999 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: Moving the mail spool!


>On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Michael D. Sofka wrote:
>
>> BIngo.  Local access to the mail spool violates
>> the servermode assumption, regardless of how that
>> local access comes about. (E.g., shell accounts on
>> the mail machine, or putting mail in home directories.)
>
>If there's some way to lock the file so that qpopper has exclusive
>access to it - and is denied access when something else has the file,
>then that should allow server mode to continue to be used.
>
>AB
>
>

I was thinking the same thing, I thought as long a Qpopper had exclusive
rights to the file I could still use server mode, and have mail put in the
home dir. The only people that would use the home dir is administration and
Qpopper.


Dooz Owings


Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:14:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Subject: Re: Moving the mail spool!

I use pine in local shell all day and i've used netscape once or twice to
retrieve my inbox via pop3..all that happens is qpopper locks the mailbox
and I have to quit and re-enter pine.
I always "leave messages on server" though.

-Cygnus
.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
Anthony J. Biacco                       Network Administrator/Engineer
admin at intergrafix dot net                    Intergrafix Internet Services

    "Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
http://cygnus.ncohafmuta.com                http://www.intergrafix.net
.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999, Alan Brown wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Michael D. Sofka wrote:
> 
> > BIngo.  Local access to the mail spool violates
> > the servermode assumption, regardless of how that
> > local access comes about. (E.g., shell accounts on
> > the mail machine, or putting mail in home directories.)
> 
> If there's some way to lock the file so that qpopper has exclusive
> access to it - and is denied access when something else has the file, 
> then that should allow server mode to continue to be used.
> 
> AB
> 


Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:20:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Subject: Re: Accounting and ETRN

in the domain's DNS zone file give it a bogus priority mail exchanger
(a server without port 25 active) and a secondary mail exchanger of your
mail server.

something like:

client.com.           IN      MX      10 bogus.yourdomain.com.
client.com.           IN      MX      20 yourmailserver.yourdomain.com.


then since it can't hit the primary server it'll queue up all mail for the
domain on the secondary. Then they can pull it off there with their ETRN
command.

this is what we do when a company gets a static IP from us. we set the
primary to their static IP and whenever they're online the mail goes
straight down the pipe to them, to their exchange server or whatever, and
when they're offline it queues it up here..when they come online, their
exchange server issues the ETRN command pullling the queued mail off and
they go happily on their way with primary again.

-Cygnus
=2E-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
Anthony J. Biacco                       Network Administrator/Engineer
admin at intergrafix dot net                    Intergrafix Internet Services

    "Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
http://cygnus.ncohafmuta.com                http://www.intergrafix.net
=2E-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Alexander Waller wrote:

> Hi !
> This is my second attempt to get Informations on mailaccounting.
> I got some replies but they didn´t lead me to a solution.
> So pleas be so kind and try to help me.
> 
> I have :
> Linux
> Sendmail
> qpopper
> 
> I need :
> Informations on how to establish mail-accounting. Any hints or links are
> wellcome.
> 
> 
> Now I add another question. Maybee I am offtopic here but the people here
> maybee can help me.
> 
> I have to queue mail for a customer. He wants then to get the mail via et=
rn
> command via smtp-protocoll.
> Has anyone a solution for that.
> 
> Thanx. Alex.
> 
> 
> +------------------------------------------+
> + Alex Waller                              +
> + WebPoint                                 +
> + Internet-Services                        +
> + A-6840 Götzis                            +
> + Mobil +43 676 4121128                    +
> + http://www.webpoint.at                   +
> +------------------------------------------+
> 
> 


Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:45:10 -0500
From: Tomasz Orzechowski <tmo at apk dot net>
Subject: Re: Accounting and ETRN

Admin Mailing Lists wrote on Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 03:20:13PM -0500:i
> in the domain's DNS zone file give it a bogus priority mail exchanger
> (a server without port 25 active) and a secondary mail exchanger of your
> mail server.

WHY???

> something like:
> client.com.           IN      MX      10 bogus.yourdomain.com.
> client.com.           IN      MX      20 yourmailserver.yourdomain.com.
> 
> then since it can't hit the primary server it'll queue up all mail for the
> domain on the secondary. Then they can pull it off there with their ETRN
> command.

Why not just make the 'secondary' the best MX?

> this is what we do when a company gets a static IP from us. we set the
> primary to their static IP and whenever they're online the mail goes
> straight down the pipe to them, to their exchange server or whatever, and
> when they're offline it queues it up here..when they come online, their
> exchange server issues the ETRN command pullling the queued mail off and
> they go happily on their way with primary again.

Wasteful.

I favour the following approach:

secondary MX to mail hub (several machines in our case)
primary MX to specific ETRN server for that domain
on that ETRN server a mailertable entry defining the next hop for a
given domain as mail.that-domain.tld

This way when they ETRN they get their mail, and the ETRN server does not
waste time, bandwidth and cpu on trying connections to the 'best' MX when
that MX is not reachable.
-- 
Tomasz Orzechowski                                           tmo at apk dot net
APK.net systems administration team                                TO630


From: "Jeff Halper" <jeff at ihot dot com>
Subject: Fw: Accounting and ETRN
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:19:50 -0800

> I have a tutorial on how to do this here:
>
> http://www3.ihot.com/ihotusers/exchetrn.html
>
>
>
> You wrote:
>
> > From: Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
> > To: Alexander Waller <a.waller at webpoint dot at>
> > cc: Subscribers of Qpopper <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
> > Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:20:13 -0500 (EST)
> > Subject: Re: Accounting and ETRN
> >
> >
> > in the domain's DNS zone file give it a bogus priority mail exchanger
> > (a server without port 25 active) and a secondary mail exchanger of your
> > mail server.
> >
> > something like:
> >
> > client.com.           IN      MX      10 bogus.yourdomain.com.
> > client.com.           IN      MX      20 yourmailserver.yourdomain.com.
> >
> >
> > then since it can't hit the primary server it'll queue up all mail for
the
> > domain on the secondary. Then they can pull it off there with their ETRN
> > command.
> >
> > this is what we do when a company gets a static IP from us. we set the
> > primary to their static IP and whenever they're online the mail goes
> > straight down the pipe to them, to their exchange server or whatever,
and
> > when they're offline it queues it up here..when they come online, their
> > exchange server issues the ETRN command pullling the queued mail off and
> > they go happily on their way with primary again.
> >
> > -Cygnus
> > ..-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
> > Anthony J. Biacco                       Network Administrator/Engineer
> > admin at intergrafix dot net                    Intergrafix Internet Services
> >
> >     "Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
> > http://cygnus.ncohafmuta.com                http://www.intergrafix.net
> > ..-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
> >
> > On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Alexander Waller wrote:
> >
> > > Hi !
> > > This is my second attempt to get Informations on mailaccounting.
> > > I got some replies but they didn¥t lead me to a solution.
> > > So pleas be so kind and try to help me.
> > >
> > > I have :
> > > Linux
> > > Sendmail
> > > qpopper
> > >
> > > I need :
> > > Informations on how to establish mail-accounting. Any hints or links
are
> > > wellcome.
> > >
> > >
> > > Now I add another question. Maybee I am offtopic here but the people
here
> > > maybee can help me.
> > >
> > > I have to queue mail for a customer. He wants then to get the mail via
etrn
> > > command via smtp-protocoll.
> > > Has anyone a solution for that.
> > >
> > > Thanx. Alex.
> > >
> > >
> > > +------------------------------------------+
> > > + Alex Waller                              +
> > > + WebPoint                                 +
> > > + Internet-Services                        +
> > > + A-6840 G–tzis                            +
> > > + Mobil +43 676 4121128                    +
> > > + http://www.webpoint.at                   +
> > > +------------------------------------------+
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>


Date: Mon,  1 Nov 1999 21:56:28 +0100
From: Terje Bless <link at tss dot no>
Subject: Re: Moving the mail spool!

On 02.11.99 at 05:48, Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz> wrote:

>If there's some way to lock the file so that qpopper has exclusive access
>to it - and is denied access when something else has the file, then that
>should allow server mode to continue to be used.

Is mandatory file locking widely supported these days? Last I heard, most
systems only supported advisory file locking which gets you next to
nowhere. Unless you can verify the support for mandatory file locking at
build time the answer would seem to be "Don't do that then!".