Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 20:32:14 -0700
From: rdegel at 1.mmink dot com (Rick Degelsmith)
Subject: x-List RFC fields

hi folks,

I'm new to the list.  I checked the FAQ, web pages,  install instructions....

It seems like the RFC-x-list fields have been added to the Outgoing
announcements on my autoshare server.  The documentation (1.3 addendum)
says they're "helpful," but I can't find any other info on it at all.

I do not want to the fields to show (or at least not all of them).

Seems there must be a way to eliminate/choose them; have I missed something
obvious?

Help please?  thanks,

                Rick

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From: Roger_Booth at pubshop.demon.co dot uk
Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 14:42:57 +0100
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 18 May 1997

Is there a "user manual" that shows pictures of the screens you get using
AutoShare admin. I am finding it hard understanding what information should go
where iwhen setting up lists.

Thanks



Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 12:20:46 -0700
From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 18 May 1997

At 2:42 PM +0100 on 5/20/97, Roger_Booth at pubshop.demon.co dot uk wrote:


> Is there a "user manual" that shows pictures of the screens you get using
> AutoShare admin. I am finding it hard understanding what information
>should go
> where iwhen setting up lists.
>

I don't know about the pictures, but if you have specific questions, I'm
sure some of us can be of help.

Bill

_____________________________________________________________________
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Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster
<http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central>

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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 13:15:53 -0800
From: Robert Orenstein <rlo at glyphic dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 18 May 1997

>Is there a "user manual" that shows pictures of the screens you get using
>AutoShare admin. I am finding it hard understanding what information should go
>where iwhen setting up lists.

Have you tried turning on the help balloons?  The information there
is pretty helpful.

Robert Orenstein



Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 15:47:30 -0700
From: (Kurt Kohler) <kohler at ao dot com>
Subject: Auto-archiving not working?

  I recently got AutoShare with the intention of switching a mailing list I
run to it from the simple mailing list feature in EIMS.

  Everything seems to be working fine, except that I can't get the
archiving to work. I tried selecting a path to my web directory (which is
mounted with AppleShare (actually netatalk)) first in the global list
configuration and later in the one specific to my list. I've never seen
anything show up in the configured folder. Thinking there might be a
problem with remote disks, I tried pointing at a local folder but that
didn't work either.

  Does anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong? If I understand
the docs correctly, all that's needed is to define a folder to save the
created html pages in. Is there something else?

  I'm running 7.6.1 on a 7100/66AV if that matters.

Kurt Kohler
Alpha Omega Computer Systems, Inc.  Corvallis, OR
Email:     <mailto:kohler at ao dot com>
Home page: <http://www.ao.com/~kohler/>



Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 16:12:54 -0700
From: "Steve van Mossel (604-953-3431)" <stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca>
Subject: The Review Command

I would like to be able to open up all my lists to the public, for "review"
(ie. even if a person is not a subscriber, they can review the lists
recipients).

 I have set the "list type" to open, but this seems to have no effect on
the "review" command.

Does anyone know if this is possible, or how to do it?

Cheers,
Steve

---------------------------------------------------------
 Steve van Mossel                       Network Analyst
 Ministry of Women's Equality        (250) 953-3431

<mailto:stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca>
<http://www.weq.gov.bc.ca/>

---------------------------------------------------------



Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 08:41:25 -0400
From: wsuarez at digprod dot com (Bill Suarez)
Subject: Re: The Review Command

Steve,

Are you using the "review all" command?

Bill Suarez
_______________________________________________________________________________
Subject: The Review Command
From:    autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk at Internet
Date:    5/20/97  4:12 PM

I would like to be able to open up all my lists to the public, for "review"
(ie. even if a person is not a subscriber, they can review the lists
recipients).

 I have set the "list type" to open, but this seems to have no effect on
the "review" command.

Does anyone know if this is possible, or how to do it?

Cheers,
Steve

---------------------------------------------------------
 Steve van Mossel                       Network Analyst
 Ministry of Women's Equality        (250) 953-3431

<mailto:stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca>
<http://www.weq.gov.bc.ca/>

---------------------------------------------------------



**  The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
**  <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/>

Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 09:15:59 -0700
From: "Steve van Mossel (604-953-3431)" <stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca>
Subject: Re: The Review Command

I am using a web form, so that my clients have an easy-to-use tool where
they can review the recipients on any given list. I have set up the form so
that they click to select a distribution list name, and they fill in their
email address, and the review results are emailed to them

The command in the Web form I'm using is "review"

Cheers,
steve
----------
At 5:41 AM -0700 5/21/97, Bill Suarez wrote:
>Steve,
>
>Are you using the "review all" command?
>
>Bill Suarez
>__________________________________________________________

>I would like to be able to open up all my lists to the public, for "review"
>(ie. even if a person is not a subscriber, they can review the lists
>recipients).
>
> I have set the "list type" to open, but this seems to have no effect on
>the "review" command.
>
>Does anyone know if this is possible, or how to do it?
>
>Cheers,
>Steve
>
>---------------------------------------------------------
> Steve van Mossel                       Network Analyst
> Ministry of Women's Equality        (250) 953-3431
>
><mailto:stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca>
><http://www.weq.gov.bc.ca/>
>
>---------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>**  The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
>**  <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/>
>
>**  The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
>**  <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/>


---------------------------------------------------------
 Steve van Mossel                       Network Analyst
 Ministry of Women's Equality        (250) 953-3431

<mailto:stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca>
<http://www.weq.gov.bc.ca/>

---------------------------------------------------------



Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 12:57:50 -0400
From: wsuarez at digprod dot com (Bill Suarez)
Subject: Re[2]: The Review Command

If memory serves Steve......the "review <list>" will only work if the user is
subscribed to that list. I don't believe you can "review" a list that you are
not subscribed to.

I just doubled checked against my 1.3 AutoShare server and both Review <list>
and review all will work unless you are subscribed to a list(s).

Bill
_______________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: The Review Command
From:    autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk at Internet
Date:    5/21/97  9:15 AM

I am using a web form, so that my clients have an easy-to-use tool where
they can review the recipients on any given list. I have set up the form so
that they click to select a distribution list name, and they fill in their
email address, and the review results are emailed to them

The command in the Web form I'm using is "review"

Cheers,
steve
----------
At 5:41 AM -0700 5/21/97, Bill Suarez wrote:
>Steve,
>
>Are you using the "review all" command?
>
>Bill Suarez
>__________________________________________________________

>I would like to be able to open up all my lists to the public, for "review"
>(ie. even if a person is not a subscriber, they can review the lists
>recipients).
>
> I have set the "list type" to open, but this seems to have no effect on
>the "review" command.
>
>Does anyone know if this is possible, or how to do it?
>
>Cheers,
>Steve
>
>---------------------------------------------------------
> Steve van Mossel                       Network Analyst
> Ministry of Women's Equality        (250) 953-3431
>
><mailto:stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca>
><http://www.weq.gov.bc.ca/>
>
>---------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>**  The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
>**  <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/>
>
>**  The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
>**  <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/>


---------------------------------------------------------
 Steve van Mossel                       Network Analyst
 Ministry of Women's Equality        (250) 953-3431

<mailto:stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca>
<http://www.weq.gov.bc.ca/>

---------------------------------------------------------



**  The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
**  <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/>

Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 10:33:19 -0700
From: "Steve van Mossel (604-953-3431)" <stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca>
Subject: Re: x-List RFC fields

I also would like to manipulate the X-whatever: fields in the email
header. In particular, I would like to remove the line:

	X-To-Unsubscribe: autoshare at my dot server, subject: unsub my_list


And I am also interested to know the trick. How does the line:

	<color><param>FFFF,0000,0000</param>Reply-To:
AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk

</color>come out in red  (it might be a Eudora setting of mine, but I
can't see it anywhere)


Cheers,

steve

----------------

At 8:32 PM -0700 5/19/97, Rick Degelsmith wrote:

>It seems like the RFC-x-list fields have been added to the Outgoing

>announcements on my autoshare server.  The documentation (1.3
addendum)

>says they're "helpful," but I can't find any other info on it at all.

>

>I do not want to the fields to show (or at least not all of them).

>

>Seems there must be a way to eliminate/choose them; have I missed
something

>obvious?

---------------------------------------------------------

 Steve van Mossel                       Network Analyst

 Ministry of Women's Equality        (250) 953-3431


<<mailto:stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca>

<<http://www.weq.gov.bc.ca/>


---------------------------------------------------------


Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 15:00:46 -0700
From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com>
Subject: Re: Auto-archiving not working?

At 3:47 PM -0700 on 5/20/97, Kurt Kohler wrote:


>   I recently got AutoShare with the intention of switching a mailing list I
> run to it from the simple mailing list feature in EIMS.
>
>   Everything seems to be working fine, except that I can't get the
> archiving to work. I tried selecting a path to my web directory (which is
> mounted with AppleShare (actually netatalk)) first in the global list
> configuration and later in the one specific to my list. I've never seen
> anything show up in the configured folder. Thinking there might be a
> problem with remote disks, I tried pointing at a local folder but that
> didn't work either.
>
>   Does anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong? If I understand
> the docs correctly, all that's needed is to define a folder to save the
> created html pages in. Is there something else?

I'm not sure what your web directory has to do with archiving your list.
Maybe I misunderstand what you're asking, but I'll go ahead and throw in my
2 cents anyway.

For your list, among other folders, you need an archive folder (mine is
called "Archives") in your "Auto" folder, and your list admin should show
that as your archive folder.

A folder is then created in that archive folder given the same name as my
list, and within that folder are 4 files:

current.html  - archived posts
current.toc  - summary of archived posts
digest.html - digest being created
digest.toc  - summary of digest being created

I'm by no means an expert on all this stuff, but I do have this working
fine for my list.

Cheers,
Bill

_____________________________________________________________________
Bill Catambay
Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster
<http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central>

              />
             //   Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released!
     (//////[O]>=========================================-
             \\    <http://www.catambay.com/morgana>
              \>
____________________________________________________________________



Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 13:54:29 -0700
From: (Kurt Kohler) <kohler at ao dot com>
Subject: Re: Auto-archiving not working?

>Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 15:00:46 -0700
>From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com>
>Subject: Re: Auto-archiving not working?
>
>At 3:47 PM -0700 on 5/20/97, Kurt Kohler wrote:
>
>
>>   I recently got AutoShare with the intention of switching a mailing list I
>> run to it from the simple mailing list feature in EIMS.
>>
>>   Everything seems to be working fine, except that I can't get the
>> archiving to work. I tried selecting a path to my web directory (which is
>> mounted with AppleShare (actually netatalk)) first in the global list
>> configuration and later in the one specific to my list. I've never seen
>> anything show up in the configured folder. Thinking there might be a
>> problem with remote disks, I tried pointing at a local folder but that
>> didn't work either.
>>
>>   Does anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong? If I understand
>> the docs correctly, all that's needed is to define a folder to save the
>> created html pages in. Is there something else?
>
>I'm not sure what your web directory has to do with archiving your list.
>Maybe I misunderstand what you're asking, but I'll go ahead and throw in my
>2 cents anyway.
>
>For your list, among other folders, you need an archive folder (mine is
>called "Archives") in your "Auto" folder, and your list admin should show
>that as your archive folder.
>
>A folder is then created in that archive folder given the same name as my
>list, and within that folder are 4 files:
>
>current.html  - archived posts
>current.toc  - summary of archived posts
>digest.html - digest being created
>digest.toc  - summary of digest being created
>
>I'm by no means an expert on all this stuff, but I do have this working
>fine for my list.

  I don't think we're talking about the same thing. I'm referring to the
feature called "automated web archives" in the docs. Unless I'm totally
misunderstanding what they say, a set of html pages (including an
index.html page) should be created in the specified directory (Web Path). I
see nothing of the kind in the selected directory. In fact no files are
created there at all.

 Oh and BTW, I still get the dialog to locate AutoShare.68K every time I
run the Admin tool. I've seen the discussion of this in the archives, but
I've never seen a solution. At least not one that works for me. I'm running
7.6.1 on a 7100/66AV.

Kurt Kohler
Alpha Omega Computer Systems, Inc.  Corvallis, OR
Email:     <mailto:kohler at ao dot com>
Home page: <http://www.ao.com/~kohler/>



Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 16:52:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Eric Fisher <fisher at knarf dot com>
Subject: Question about To:

I sure this question has been brought up before, but I just got started
with this.  Does anyone know of a way to change the "To:" field on
listserv messages?  We want to create a list that nobody knows the name of
the list.  (Political reasons!)  If anyone knows, please post here, or to
fisher at knarf dot com.  Thanks.

Eric Fisher


Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 10:41:23 +0100
From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman)
Subject: Re: Question about To:

At 00:52 23/5/97, Eric Fisher wrote:
>I sure this question has been brought up before, but I just got started
>with this.  Does anyone know of a way to change the "To:" field on
>listserv messages?

Can you expand a little? What exactly are you trying to achieve here?

Changing the To: address wouldn't hide the list name of an AutoShare list,
since the list name is also in the X-List headers.

( :-]) James



Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 20:12:59 -0400
From: Robert Gray <rgray at ccs.carleton dot ca>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 23 May 1997

Kurt wrote:
> Oh and BTW, I still get the dialog to every time I
>run the Admin tool. I've seen the discussion of this in the archives, but
>I've never seen a solution. At least not one that works for me. I'm running
>7.6.1 on a 7100/66AV.

I never see the 'locate AutoShare.68K'.  My solution is simple - I use the
Complete Admin form and keep it in the same directory as the Autoshare app.
For the record, v1.3 was a completely unevenful upgrade and has run nonstop
(LCiii, sys 7.6.1) since the release date without a hiccup.

TTFN eh?!
Robert Gray * http://www.carleton.ca/~rgray * mailto:rgray at ccs.carleton dot ca
     Dept of Psychology   *   Carleton University   *   OTTAWA
"...not all those who wander are lost" (J.R.R. Tolkien)



From: "Alan S. Dobkin" <adobkin at emory dot edu>
Subject: Lists Within Lists
Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 16:32:03 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

Is it possible to have a list within a list with AutoShare?  For instance, 
List 1 contains members A, B, and C.  List 2 contains List 1 plus member D.

Incidentally, I've tried this, and it seems to only send the message to 
member D, but not to A, B, or C.  So, I'm wondering if I did something 
wrong or if it's simply not possible.

Thanks,
Alan

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Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 17:12:54 -0700
From: (Kurt Kohler) <kohler at ao dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 23 May 1997

>Kurt wrote:
>> Oh and BTW, I still get the dialog to every time I
>>run the Admin tool. I've seen the discussion of this in the archives, but
>>I've never seen a solution. At least not one that works for me. I'm running
>>7.6.1 on a 7100/66AV.
>
>I never see the 'locate AutoShare.68K'.  My solution is simple - I use the
>Complete Admin form and keep it in the same directory as the Autoshare app.
>For the record, v1.3 was a completely unevenful upgrade and has run nonstop
>(LCiii, sys 7.6.1) since the release date without a hiccup.
>

  Ah! That worked. I put Autoshare.ppc and the AutoShare.68k resource file
in the same folder as the AutoShare Admin app. So far it hasn't asked me
where Autoshare.68k is. Thanks!

  I still have the problem with the automatic web archive generation however.

  Any answers?


Kurt Kohler
Alpha Omega Computer Systems, Inc.  Corvallis, OR
Email:     <mailto:kohler at ao dot com>
Home page: <http://www.ao.com/~kohler/>



Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 23:06:50 +0100
From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman)
Subject: Re: web archives

At 01:12 24/05/97, Kurt Kohler wrote:

>  I still have the problem with the automatic web archive generation however.
>
>  Any answers?

Are your email archives working properly?

It would be a good idea to generate an analysis file and take a look at
that. It often shows up the cause of the problem.

( :-])  James



Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 23:07:05 +0100
From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman)
Subject: Re: Lists Within Lists

At 21:32 23/05/97, Alan S. Dobkin wrote:
>Is it possible to have a list within a list with AutoShare?  For instance,
>List 1 contains members A, B, and C.  List 2 contains List 1 plus member D.
>
>Incidentally, I've tried this, and it seems to only send the message to
>member D, but not to A, B, or C.  So, I'm wondering if I did something
>wrong or if it's simply not possible.

The problem with subscribing a list to another list is that any message
from the first list contains a precedence: bulk header, which causes
AutoShare to filter the message out before it gets to the second list.

This is done to prevent mail loops, and to prevent AutoShare vacation
notices going out to mailing lists.

I've heard of one person hacking the precedence header strings to achieve
this very thing, but I do not recommend it!

Try this:

list    account         points to
====    =======         =========

foo     foo             filed mail
        foo.m           foo.m file (in LS folder)
        foo.d           foo.d file (in LS folder)

bar     bar             filed mail
        bar.m           foobar.m account
        bar.d           foobar.d account

        foobar.m        mailing list containing foo.m and bar-m account names
        foobar.d        mailing list containing foo.d and bar-d account names
        bar-m           bar.m file (in LS folder)
        bar-d           bar.d file (in LS folder)

A message to list 'foo' goes only to that list, and a message to list 'bar'
goes to both. I hope...

This may or may not be quite what you had in mind!

( :-])  James



Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 08:21:37 -0700
From: "Steve van Mossel (604-953-3431)" <stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca>
Subject: X-List RFC fields

I am still looking to resolve several AutoShare questions.


I would like to manipulate the X-whatever: fields in the email header.
In particular, I would like to remove the line:

	X-To-Unsubscribe: autoshare at my dot server, subject: unsub my_list

Is there a good source of documentation for this type of thing? The
AutoShare docs are skimpy on this matter.


And I am also interested to know the trick. How does the line:

	<color><param>FFFF,0000,0000</param>Reply-To:
AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk

</color>come out in red  (Is it a Eudora setting of mine? ... I can't
see this preference anywhere!)


Cheers,

steve


---------------------------------------------------------

 Steve van Mossel                       Network Analyst

 Ministry of Women's Equality        (250) 953-3431

 756 Fort Street, Victoria BC 

 V8V 1X4


<<mailto:stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca>

<<http://www.weq.gov.bc.ca/>


---------------------------------------------------------


Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 18:05:57 +0100
From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman)
Subject: Re: X-List RFC fields

At 16:21 26/05/97, Steve van Mossel (604-953-3431) wrote:
>In particular, I would like to remove the line:
>        X-To-Unsubscribe: autoshare at my dot server, subject: unsub my_list
>Is there a good source of documentation for this type of thing? The
>AutoShare docs are skimpy on this matter.

There is currently no way to remove the X-headers, they are created
automatically by AutoShare. Mikael has indicated that he might allow the
option to turn some of these headers off, but that's for some future
version.

Personally, I'd like the option to define a set of unique headers for each
list (I find the defaults are not always appropriate).

>And I am also interested to know the trick. How does the line:
>        Reply-To: AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk
>come out in red  (Is it a Eudora setting of mine? ... I can't see this
>preference anywhere!)

It is indeed a feature of Eudora 3. I don't know how to turn it off, since
I'm still happily using Eudora Pro version 2.14 ;-)

( :-])  James



Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 09:38:05 -0700
From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com>
Subject: Monthly help files...

I noticed that a new feature now allows a help file to be sent to all list
recipients by naming the help file month.<list-name> and placing in the
DOCS folder.

Does this happen at the end of the month?  Can that be changed?  Is there
any way for a list recipient to request it?  Is there any way the admin
person can force it out?

Thanks,
Bill

_____________________________________________________________________
Bill Catambay
Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster
<http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central>

              />
             //   Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released!
     (//////[O]>=========================================-
             \\    <http://www.catambay.com/morgana>
              \>
____________________________________________________________________



Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 12:48:22 -0400
From: wsuarez at digprod dot com (Bill Suarez)
Subject: Re: Monthly help files...

     Bill,
     
     If memory serves...............Mikael indicated the the file would go 
     out at the beginning on the month, to both mail and digest 
     subscribers.
     
     I suppose that you could make the file available to the "get" command 
     easily enough if you wanted to.
     
     Regards,
     
     Bill Suarez


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Monthly help files...
Author:  autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk at Internet
Date:    5/27/97 9:38 AM


I noticed that a new feature now allows a help file to be sent to all list 
recipients by naming the help file month.<list-name> and placing in the 
DOCS folder.
     
Does this happen at the end of the month?  Can that be changed?  Is there 
any way for a list recipient to request it?  Is there any way the admin 
person can force it out?
     
Thanks,
Bill
     
_____________________________________________________________________ 
Bill Catambay
Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster 
<http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central>
     
              />
             //   Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released!
     (//////[O]>=========================================-
             \\    <http://www.catambay.com/morgana>
              \>
____________________________________________________________________
     
     
     
**  The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
**  <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/>

Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 10:10:35 -0800
From: Rick Degelsmith <rdegel at 1.mmink dot com>
Subject: auto digest after subscribe--feature?

Hello all,

My autoshare seems to send out a digest to everyone who subscribes
immediately after they subscribe.  I have not enabled the "digest" feature.
The list involved is an announcement list.  Can I turn off this auto digest
feature?  Do I need to throw away my digest files?  anybody got an idea?

thanks,
	Rick

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RICK DEGELSMITH, M.A.                                MULTIMEDIA INK DESIGNS
Media Director, Internet Ad Emporium          Voice (619)679-8317
14544 High Pine Street, Poway CA  92064   FAX (619)679-1536
http://mmink.com/                                      EMAIL:  rdegel at mmink dot com
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Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 13:17:40 -0400
From: wsuarez at digprod dot com (Bill Suarez)
Subject: Re: auto digest after subscribe--feature?

Rick,

When a user subscribes, in mail mode vs. digest mode, a partial digest with that
days postings to date, will be sent out to the new user. If there have not been
any postings to that list, for that day, then no partial digest message will go
out.

I don't recall a way to turn it off.

Bill Suarez
_______________________________________________________________________________
Subject: auto digest after subscribe--feature?
From:    AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk at Internet
Date:    5/27/97  10:10 AM

Hello all,

My autoshare seems to send out a digest to everyone who subscribes
immediately after they subscribe.  I have not enabled the "digest" feature.
The list involved is an announcement list.  Can I turn off this auto digest
feature?  Do I need to throw away my digest files?  anybody got an idea?

thanks,
        Rick

***********************************************
RICK DEGELSMITH, M.A.                                MULTIMEDIA INK DESIGNS
Media Director, Internet Ad Emporium          Voice (619)679-8317
14544 High Pine Street, Poway CA  92064   FAX (619)679-1536
http://mmink.com/                                      EMAIL:  rdegel at mmink dot com
***********************************************



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Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 14:44:17 -0700
From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com>
Subject: Re: Monthly help files...

At 12:48 PM -0400 on 5/27/97, Bill Suarez wrote:


>      Bill,
>
>      If memory serves...............Mikael indicated the the file would go
>      out at the beginning on the month, to both mail and digest
>      subscribers.
>

But can that be changed, to, say, the 15th of the month?

>      I suppose that you could make the file available to the "get" command
>      easily enough if you wanted to.
>

The "easily enough" part is where I get lost.  How do you do that?

Thanks,
Bill

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Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 17:04:30 -0700
From: (Kurt Kohler) <kohler at ao dot com>
Subject: Re: web archives

  Sorry to be slow in responding. I was out of the office until today.

>At 01:12 24/05/97, Kurt Kohler wrote:
>
>>  I still have the problem with the automatic web archive generation however.
>>
>>  Any answers?
>
>Are your email archives working properly?

  It looks like it. The folder ::Auto:Archives:Futaba-L: contains the files
Current.html, Current.toc, Digest.html, and Digest.toc which are updated
when I send something to the list.

>It would be a good idea to generate an analysis file and take a look at
>that. It often shows up the cause of the problem.
>

  From the analysis file:

General list configuration (1000):
  listmaster at buffy.ao dot com (Kurt Kohler)
  subscription, reply-to list, show names
  address:
  NOCONCEAL, NODIGEST, MAIL, NOACK, POST
  rollover is 0, max lines is 0, quote disabled
  show list
  web path: Antares Home:public_html:Archives:

List-specific configuration:
Futaba-L (1001):
  kohler at buffy.ao dot com (Kurt Kohler)
  subscription, reply-to list, show names
  address: <default>
  NOCONCEAL, NODIGEST, MAIL, ACK, POST
  rollover is 0,  max lines is 0,  quote disabled
  X-List-Help: <default>
  no alternate name,  show list
  web path: <default>
  mail-back string: <default>
  subject prefix: <default>
  remote password: <default>

 So the web path is set. As I understand it, a folder called "Futaba-L"
should be created inside the "Archives" folder. If I create that folder it
remains empty. If I delete it, it doesn't get recreated.

  Since the volume "Antares Home" is on a unix box (Solaris running
netatalk), I thought there might be a problem with case sensitivity, but I
haven't been able to get various combinations to work. I can't guarantee
that I've tried all possible combinations.

  Is there something else I should look for in the Analysis file? I can
mail the whole file to anyone who wants to see it. I didn't think posting
it to the list would be appreciated!

Kurt Kohler
Alpha Omega Computer Systems, Inc.  Corvallis, OR
Email:     <mailto:kohler at ao dot com>
Home page: <http://www.ao.com/~kohler/>



Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 21:28:57 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Monthly help files...

At 14:44 -0700 5/27/97, Bill Catambay wrote:

>At 12:48 PM -0400 on 5/27/97, Bill Suarez wrote:

>>      If memory serves...............Mikael indicated the the file would
>>      go out at the beginning on the month, to both mail and digest
>>      subscribers.

>But can that be changed, to, say, the 15th of the month?

No, not currently. But you can copy and paste the contents of the file into
a mail and send to your lists at this time.

>The "easily enough" part is where I get lost.  How do you do that?

Anyone can send a mail to your list server address and specify the file
name (Month.<list>) on a line by itself in the body. Any no-space file name
in the docs/autoshare folder is considered a command, e.g. Help.



Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 21:34:33 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: web archives

At 17:04 -0700 5/27/97, Kurt Kohler wrote:

>The folder ::Auto:Archives:Futaba-L: contains the files
>Current.html, Current.toc, Digest.html, and Digest.toc which are updated
>when I send something to the list.

Are your standard archives set to Text or HTML? Must be HTML.

>General list configuration (1000):
>  web path: Antares Home:public_html:Archives:
>
>List-specific configuration:
>Futaba-L (1001):
>  web path: <default>

Looks fine to me.

>  Since the volume "Antares Home" is on a unix box (Solaris running
>netatalk), I thought there might be a problem with case sensitivity, but I
>haven't been able to get various combinations to work. I can't guarantee
>that I've tried all possible combinations.

What happens if you set the web path to a folder on the AutoShare disk?



Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 12:57:22 +0100
From: Bill Bedford <billbpm at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Hard Bounces

Is there a way of turning off only the hard bounce?

I have discovered that three members of one of my lists with the same ISP
were hard bounced on the same day, since two of them have since told me
that there is nothing wrong with their connection I suspect a problem at
the ISP to be the cause.


Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 16:28:59 -0700
From: (Kurt Kohler) <kohler at ao dot com>
Subject: Re: web archives

>At 17:04 -0700 5/27/97, Kurt Kohler wrote:
>
>>The folder ::Auto:Archives:Futaba-L: contains the files
>>Current.html, Current.toc, Digest.html, and Digest.toc which are updated
>>when I send something to the list.
>
>Are your standard archives set to Text or HTML? Must be HTML.

  That was it! I suppose I should have seen the connection but I didn't.
Wouldn't it be reasonable to force HTML if Web Path is non-blank?

  Thanks for your help!

Kurt Kohler
Alpha Omega Computer Systems, Inc.  Corvallis, OR
Email:     <mailto:kohler at ao dot com>
Home page: <http://www.ao.com/~kohler/>



Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 01:35:16 +0100
From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman)
Subject: Re: Hard Bounces

At 12:57 28/05/97, Bill Bedford wrote:
>Is there a way of turning off only the hard bounce?
>
>I have discovered that three members of one of my lists with the same ISP
>were hard bounced on the same day, since two of them have since told me
>that there is nothing wrong with their connection I suspect a problem at
>the ISP to be the cause.

For a hard bounce to occur, you'd have to get a 550 error (user unknown).
So yes, I expect their ISP had a problem.

It occurs to me to wonder if AutoShare filters can be applied to the bounce
account (care to try it Bill?).

Then it would just be a question of filtering bounces from that particular
domain. Provided you have 'keep copies' checked for the bounce account, it
would still be possible to keep an eye on things manually.

( :-])  James



Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:29:49 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Hard Bounces

At 12:57 +0100 5/28/97, Bill Bedford wrote:

>Is there a way of turning off only the hard bounce?

No, not currently. I'll keep it in mind though.

From the "Bounces and unsubscriptions" section in the 1.3 Addendum: "the
550 code (user unknown) is the only one so far to trigger a hard bounce
status". The 550 code is generally considered so severe though that instant
action may be taken.



Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:26:10 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: web archives

At 16:28 -0700 5/28/97, Kurt Kohler wrote:

>Wouldn't it be reasonable to force HTML if Web Path is non-blank?

You do indeed have a valid point here. I'll give it some thought.



Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 16:15:55 +0100
From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman)
Subject: Re: web archives

At 04:26 29/5/97, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 16:28 -0700 5/28/97, Kurt Kohler wrote:
>
>>Wouldn't it be reasonable to force HTML if Web Path is non-blank?
>
>You do indeed have a valid point here. I'll give it some thought.

Then we'd get people asking "Why do my archives come out as HTML when I've
set them to text?"  ;-)

Perhaps the tidiest solution would be to allow creation of both text and
HTML archives in this particular case. You could consider renaming the
plain text archives, too. Then it would be possible to GET a current.html
or a current.txt.

( :-])  James



Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 09:04:14 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: web archives

At 16:15 +0100 5/29/97, James Berriman wrote:

>Perhaps the tidiest solution would be to allow creation of both text and
>HTML archives in this particular case. You could consider renaming the
>plain text archives, too. Then it would be possible to GET a current.html
>or a current.txt.

Agreed. This has been on my to-do list for a good while and still is!



From: Melissa Capen <melissa at otlmail.stanford dot edu>
Subject: Help! I forgot to check keep copies...
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 08:13:24 -0700

I have been using the auto reply feature for 2 months now and it has been
flawless!

But, this time I goofed. One user just returned from vacation and has no
mail... I went to the server, and checked her settings, and I had forgotten
to check on the KEEP COPIES... it was set up as Save Files as.... in the
Filed mail folder......

How could she get her mail for the last 2 weeks???

Is it in the filed mail folder? How does one access it?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Melissa Capen
Office of Technology Licensing
Stanford University
melissa at otlmail.stanford dot edu
http://www-leland.stanford.edu/group/OTL/
415-473-3203



Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 09:12:36 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Help! I forgot to check keep copies...

At 08:13 -0700 6/2/97, Melissa Capen wrote:

>I have been using the auto reply feature for 2 months now and it has been
>flawless!

Thanks :-)

>But, this time I goofed. One user just returned from vacation and has no
>mail... I went to the server, and checked her settings, and I had forgotten
>to check on the KEEP COPIES... it was set up as Save Files as.... in the
>Filed mail folder......
>
>How could she get her mail for the last 2 weeks???
>
>Is it in the filed mail folder? How does one access it?

I'm sorry. It would seem that the mail is gone. Any mail message arriving
in the  Filed Mail folder is deleted as soon as it has been processed. You
may be able to track down some sender information in the log though and
then ask the senders  to re-send the mails.

It would be so cool if EIMS was scriptable, as AutoShare would be able to
directly configure EIMS accounts and thereby be making the AutoShare
configuration both easier and safer. All of you, please send suggestions to
<mailto:eims-beta at eudora dot com> and ask for scriptability, at least for
accounts. Thanks!



Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 12:48:26 -0400
From: Michael Reid <michael_reid at wow dot net>
Subject: Re: EIMS 1.2 Beta #1 Available

Hi,

>Qualcomm has just released a beta version of the Eudora Internet Mail
>Server (EIMS) version 1.2.  You can download the server and the README
>which contains information on new features, bug fixes, and licensing at
><http://www.eudora.com/betas>, or at
><ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/mac/servers/eudora_ims/beta1.2>
>
>Please send comments, suggestions, bug reports, etc to <eims-beta at eudora dot com>.
>
>Note: EIMS was formerly AIMS, which was formerly MailShare.
>
>Qualcomm, Inc.

For those of you that have not heard, the above info. is for you...
Now, for the new stuff...

Has anyone tried the Ph server???
I don't know much about it, but it seems like a nice way to access your
EIMS index of users.
Very snappy and has the ability to use '*' notation (like partials in
FileMaker searches)...

However! This poses a security risk for those people that use the secret
'.m' and '.d' (work list accounts) options as it will list all accounts in
the server if you fiddle with it enough...

What can be done?
Can someone please enlighten me on what a 'Ph' server *really* is.

Thanks Gang...

                                             Michael Reid
                                             Internal Systems Admin.
                                             WOW.Net Ltd.
                                             <http://www.wow.net/>



Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 14:53:47 -0400
From: Michael Reid <michael_reid at wow dot net>
Subject: Re: EIMS 1.2 Beta 'Ph' Server

Hi,

>Now, for the new stuff...
>
>Has anyone tried the Ph server???
>I don't know much about it, but it seems like a nice way to access your
>EIMS index of users.
>Very snappy and has the ability to use '*' notation (like partials in
>FileMaker searches)...
>
>However! This poses a security risk for those people that use the secret
>'.m' and '.d' (work list accounts) options as it will list all accounts in
>the server if you fiddle with it enough...
>
>What can be done?
>Can someone please enlighten me on what a 'Ph' server *really* is.
>
>Thanks Gang...

OK folks, I think I jumped the gun a bit, after some more fiddling, it
would seem that the server only sends back queries regarding the 'name'
field. So I went into the server and removed the 'name's from the accounts
I didn't wish to show and all it fine now...

But...
>Can someone please enlighten me on what a 'Ph' server *really* is.

Thanks again...

                                             Michael Reid
                                             Internal Systems Admin.
                                             WOW.Net Ltd.
                                             <http://www.wow.net/>



Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 12:24:24 -0700
From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com>
Subject: Weird occurrence with AutoShare 1.3

Without doing anything to request this, an AutoShare log report was
automatically generated over the weekend and sent to the admin account.  It
was split into 6 notes of 180K each, unreadable text.  Here's the beginning
of part 1 (is this a bug?)(why did this happen?):

Mime-Version: 1.0
To: admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com
Precedence: bulk
=46rom: postmaster at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com (GM4 Postmaster)
Subject: AutoShare Report
Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 07:46:12 -0700

===== AutoShare Log Report, Sat, 31 May 1997 07:46:12 =====
=

>

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_____________________________________________________________________
Bill Catambay
Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster
<http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central>

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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 12:38:16 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Ph server in EIMS

At 12:48 -0400 6/2/97, Michael Reid wrote:

>Can someone please enlighten me on what a 'Ph' server *really* is.

"Ph" is also known as the "UIUC CSO Nameserver"; it is a directory
information system. Steve Dorner worked on it way back in his days of being
an employee for the University of Illinois at Champagne/Urbana in Illinois.

I remember asking around for a Mac Ph server a couple of years ago, and I'm
glad it's in the Eudora IMS now!

From John Norstad's NewsWatcher manual: "The URL standard does not include
"ph" URLs, but they seemed useful, so Farhad Anklesaria (the author of
TurboGopher), Steve Dorner (the author of Eudora) and your humble author
invented them.". So <ph://ns.flunku.edu/john%20doe> is fine.



Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 12:45:32 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Weird occurrence with AutoShare 1.3

At 12:24 -0700 6/2/97, Bill Catambay wrote:

>Without doing anything to request this, an AutoShare log report was
>automatically generated over the weekend and sent to the admin account.
>It was split into 6 notes of 180K each, unreadable text.

That is weird! The question is whether the log was okay when it left the
AutoShare processing or it was garbled afterwards when mailed across the
net, perhaps some funny 8-bit stuff. The size of the log seems odd at well.



Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 12:54:52 -0700
From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com>
Subject: Re: Weird occurrence with AutoShare 1.3

At 12:45 PM -0700 on 6/2/97, Mikael Hansen wrote:


> At 12:24 -0700 6/2/97, Bill Catambay wrote:
>
> >Without doing anything to request this, an AutoShare log report was
> >automatically generated over the weekend and sent to the admin account.
> >It was split into 6 notes of 180K each, unreadable text.
>
> That is weird! The question is whether the log was okay when it left the
> AutoShare processing or it was garbled afterwards when mailed across the
> net, perhaps some funny 8-bit stuff. The size of the log seems odd at well.
>

Is that a rhetorical question, or is there some way for me to find out?

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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 13:14:25 -0700
From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com>
Subject: Need help understanding addendum info...

Okay, I've been wanting this, and now I have it, but I don't know how to
implement it.  The addendum reads:

> Subscriber addresses (*)
>
> An Internet mail message (see RFC 822) contains two parts:
> 1. the visible contents, which includes a header of RFC fields as
> well as an optional body and 2. the (usually) hidden envelope,
> which includes delivery information. Two of the RFC field
> headers may be From and To, which often (but certainly not always)
> are identical to the envelope's sender and recipient
> respectively. EIMS stores the contents and the envelope in the
> message file's data fork and resource fork respectively.
>
> AutoShare has historically used the envelope sender, not the
> RFC From field, to determine the address of a list subscriber, as the
> envelope sender is generally considered to be the real address,
> although not visible when viewing the mail message. More often
> than not, the two are identical though.
>
> If you would like new subscriber addresses to be extracted from
> the RFC From field, you may use the RFC From property in
> the AppleScript Options (Misc) to enable this. This means that the
> list files will contain the RFC From addresses for new
> subscribers, which will be used whenever a list server request or
> a list contribution takes a place.

I would like the subscriber address to be extracted from the RFC From
field, but I have no idea what is meant by using the "RFC From property in
the AppleScript Options (Misc)".  If someone would walk me through this
process, I would be very grateful (I was hoping there'd be a simple switch
to flip in the admin program, but I see no such beast).

Thanks,
Bill

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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 19:32:00 +0100
From: Bill Bedford <billbpm at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Re: Help! I forgot to check keep copies...

At 5:12 pm +0100 02/06/97, Mikael Hansen wrote:


~
~It would be so cool if EIMS was scriptable, as AutoShare would be able to
~directly configure EIMS accounts and thereby be making the AutoShare
~configuration both easier and safer. All of you, please send suggestions to
~<mailto:eims-beta at eudora dot com> and ask for scriptability, at least for
~accounts. Thanks!

It has a dictionary, though there is only 'open' and 'quit' in it, so full
scriptabilty may not be far away.


Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 17:56:45 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Need help understanding addendum info...

At 13:14 -0700 6/2/97, Bill Catambay wrote:

>I would like the subscriber address to be extracted from the RFC From
>field, but I have no idea what is meant by using the "RFC From property in
>the AppleScript Options (Misc)".  If someone would walk me through this
>process, I would be very grateful (I was hoping there'd be a simple switch
>to flip in the admin program, but I see no such beast).

The Admin:

Choose More Miscellaneous from the Preferences menu and check 'RFC From (vs
envelope)'. Easy, isn't it? :-)

AppleScript (see the AppleEvent dictionary and the sample files):

tell application "AutoShare.68k" -- or .ppc
  SetMisc Options {RFC From: true}
end tell



Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 08:47:05 -0500
From: "Don W. Strickland" <Don-Strickland at easy dot com>
Subject: SPAM: toohot at 2handle dot me

    Look what just bounced off of my list server.  What should I
  do ... ignore it or report it to someone?  How do I add a filter
  to block <sam at pwrnet dot com> or all of pwrnet.com?

  Thanks 

  dws.

>From: Postmaster at VIOLIN.EASY dot COM
>To: postmaster at violin.easy dot com
>Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 08:10:46 -0500
>Subject: Undeliverable Mail
>
>The following message could not be sent to 'toohot at 2handle dot me' because the host '2handle.me' does not exist.
>
>    ----Unsent message follows----
>
>X-Sender: listserv at violin.easy dot com
>To: toohot at 2handle dot me
>From: get at noticed dot now
>Errors-To: postmaster at violin.easy dot com
>Precedence: bulk
>Subject: Need Buyer for Incredible site!!
>Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 08:10:36 -0500
>
>Invalid listserv command: Need
>
>Welcome to the listserv at easy dot com
>
[... my help message ... ]
>
>Your original message is found below.
>
>---
>Received: from MIA.EASY.COM (207.101.132.26) by VIOLIN.EASY.COM with
> ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Tue, 3 Jun 1997 08:10:26 -0500
>Received: from popalex3.linknet.net (206.103.79.233) by MIA.EASY.COM with
> SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Tue, 3 Jun 1997 08:09:17 -0500
>Received: from mailhost.1stfamily.com ([38.28.33.158])
>          by popalex3.linknet.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11696)
>          with SMTP id AAF518; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 21:53:22 -0500
>Received: from get at noticed.now by sam@pwrnet.com (8.8.5/8.6 dot 5) with SMTP id GAA00961 for <get at noticed dot now>; Mon, 02 Jun 1997 19:53:30 -
>Date: Mon, 02 Jun 97 19:53:30 EST
>From: toohot at 2handle dot me
>To: get at noticed dot now
>Subject: Need Buyer for Incredible site!!
>Message-ID: <19970380054TAA0856 at pwrnet dot com>
>Reply-To: mary at afro-erotica dot com
>X-PMFLAGS: 34078848.0
>X-UIDL: 2610431056a78aeb1b128fda426c9a5e
>Comments: Authenticated sender is <sam at pwrnet dot com>
>
[.... garbage about a XXX site for sale ...]



Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 08:43:30 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: SPAM: toohot at 2handle dot me

At 08:47 -0500 6/3/97, Don W. Strickland wrote:

>    Look what just bounced off of my list server.  What should I
>  do ... ignore it or report it to someone?  How do I add a filter
>  to block <sam at pwrnet dot com> or all of pwrnet.com?

Generally, you would create a file in your Filters folder with the name of
your list and then add lines such as "pwrnet.com", "sam@pwrnet dot com" or
"From: sam@pwrnet dot com". If you dont specify a given RFC body header, all of
From:, To:, Subject:, Reply-To and Sender: are applied.

While filter support for auto-responses including list server requests has
been around forever, filter support for lists is fairly new (I don't
remember precisely when it was added).



Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 09:38:57 -0700
From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com>
Subject: Re: Need help understanding addendum info...

At 5:56 PM -0700 on 6/2/97, Mikael Hansen wrote:


> At 13:14 -0700 6/2/97, Bill Catambay wrote:
>
> >I would like the subscriber address to be extracted from the RFC From
> >field, but I have no idea what is meant by using the "RFC From property in
> >the AppleScript Options (Misc)".  If someone would walk me through this
> >process, I would be very grateful (I was hoping there'd be a simple switch
> >to flip in the admin program, but I see no such beast).
>
> The Admin:
>
> Choose More Miscellaneous from the Preferences menu and check 'RFC From (vs
> envelope)'. Easy, isn't it? :-)
>

Very easy.

> AppleScript (see the AppleEvent dictionary and the sample files):
>
> tell application "AutoShare.68k" -- or .ppc
>   SetMisc Options {RFC From: true}
> end tell
>

This works great too.

One more question... is there any way to get a list to reply-to the RFC
From address?

Example:

I sent a note to Autoshare with another user in the From field.  Autoshare
accepted the input from that user, but when it sent out a reply, it still
sent it back to the Envelope sender (i.e., me).


Bill

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