Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:47:33 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Mail loops

At 00:37 -0700 7/22/99, Mikael Hansen wrote:

>If there is no hint at all, I guess you could compare the second 
>mail to the first mail, and if they are "adequately" identical, then 
>go kill the loop at that time.

For the fun of it (and thanks to Tom Derek for reminding me), I wrote 
a process extender of type Before processing. It is required that you 
create two new folders and then assign the folder paths at the top of 
the script before dropping it in the Process Extenders folder. Note 
that only minimal testing has been done.

   <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/Loops.sit.hqx>

When a message file arrives in the Filed Mail folder, the RFC From 
and Subject fields are compared to previously stored message files in 
another folder. If a match is not found, the message file is copied 
to the folder. If a match is found, the message file in the Filed 
Mail folder is moved to yet another folder, which is a way of 
breaking a mail loop. And just before a comparison takes place, 
stored files older than one hour, also configurable at the top of the 
script, are deleted. Feel free to enhance the script.


Subject: Re: Turn off attachments-no go
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:38:03 -0400
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>

Can you think of anything I can do to stop attachments other than typing 
"k" in the list stuff field?

On 8/26/99 1:38 PM, Mikael Hansen said:

>At 16:09 -0400 8/24/99, Charles L. Martin wrote:
>
>>It was just a small file I created to see if attachments made it through.
>>I just wanted to disable attachments since a virus has been distributed
>>to the list (Happy99.exe) several times. I was hoping to stop that.
>
>>Attachment converted: meh:b3e87348.sit (=j›Ú/SITD) (00051E87)
>
>I unpacked the archive and tested your message file, whose attachment 
>was detached when being processed here, so the mechanism appears to 
>have worked fine in this case.
>
>>In spite of this problem, it is worth mentioning that I really appreciate
>>the great service you have performed for the community of Macintosh
>>users, and continue to perform in maintaining this software. It really is
>>astounding how few problems there are. Thank you for your generosity.
>
>Thanks!


Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/

Alice: ³The King seems so prejudiced.²
King: ³Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to =
be 
Judge.²
Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll


Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:04:37 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Turn off attachments-no go

At 16:38 -0400 8/26/99, Charles L. Martin wrote:

>Can you think of anything I can do to stop attachments other than typing
>"k" in the list stuff field?

Here you go.

At 12:40 -0700 8/23/99, Mikael Hansen wrote:

>Another method is to set a limit for the number of lines in the 
>message body. In the Admin, Command-L, select the list, click the 
>List button, find the Lines field.


Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:53:57 +0800
From: Derek Tom <derek at bbdo.com dot hk>
Subject: Re: Mail loops

>At 00:37 -0700 7/22/99, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>
>>If there is no hint at all, I guess you could compare the second 
>>mail to the first mail, and if they are "adequately" identical, 
>>then go kill the loop at that time.
>
>For the fun of it (and thanks to Tom Derek for reminding me), I 
>wrote a process extender of type Before processing. It is required 
>that you create two new folders and then assign the folder paths at 
>the top of the script before dropping it in the Process Extenders 
>folder. Note that only minimal testing has been done.
>
>  <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/Loops.sit.hqx>
>
>When a message file arrives in the Filed Mail folder, the RFC From 
>and Subject fields are compared to previously stored message files 
>in another folder. If a match is not found, the message file is 
>copied to the folder. If a match is found, the message file in the 
>Filed Mail folder is moved to yet another folder, which is a way of 
>breaking a mail loop. And just before a comparison takes place, 
>stored files older than one hour, also configurable at the top of 
>the script, are deleted. Feel free to enhance the script.

Thanks very much for that, Mikael! I'll see if I can get that to 
work. If anyone out there enhances the above script, please let me 
know and I'll help beta test it!

Cheers,
Derek Tom
BBDO Asia Pacific, Hong Kong

Subject: Trouble changing preference sets with web admin
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:50:10 -0400
From: Lists <lists at tinymind dot com>

I have set up Quid Pro Quo on my mail server which is running EIMS and 
Autoshare as a cgi for QPQ. When I try to add someone to a list I have to 
of course change to the preference set for that list, but through the web 
interface, I cannot get any changes to occur. After submitting my change 
it goes back to the main page and does not alter anything. If I use TB2 
and change it with the admin too, it will then work if I add a user via 
the web interface.

Any ideas?

I would so love it if this would work!

Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:12:05 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Mail loops

At 18:53 +0800 8/27/99, Derek Tom wrote:

>Thanks very much for that, Mikael! I'll see if I can get that to 
>work. If anyone out there enhances the above script, please let me 
>know and I'll help beta test it!

Just to let you know that I have uploaded an updated version. It is 
not supposed to act any differently than the first, but it probably 
does it better.


Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:31:45 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Trouble changing preference sets with web admin

At 11:50 -0400 8/27/99, Lists wrote:

>I have set up Quid Pro Quo on my mail server which is running EIMS and
>Autoshare as a cgi for QPQ. When I try to add someone to a list I have to
>of course change to the preference set for that list, but through the web
>interface, I cannot get any changes to occur. After submitting my change
>it goes back to the main page and does not alter anything. If I use TB2
>and change it with the admin too, it will then work if I add a user via
>the web interface.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>I would so love it if this would work!

You can verify that you have changed to a given preference set by 
entering the Preference Sets web page once again, as the preference 
set pop-up list should reflect the current preference set. Let me 
know.


Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:09:32 +0800
From: Derek Tom <derek at bbdo.com dot hk>
Subject: Re: Mail loops

At 12:12pm -0700, 8/29/99, you wrote:
>Just to let you know that I have uploaded an updated version. It is 
>not supposed to act any differently than the first, but it probably 
>does it better.

Once again, Mikael, thanks so much for your help!

Warmest regards,
Derek Tom
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
. . . . . . . . . . .
Derek Tom
IT Director : BBDO Asia Pacific : Hong Kong
tel: 852.9017.3050
email: derek at bbdo.com.hk :  web: http://derek.bbdo.com dot hk

Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:34:27 -0700
From: Matthew Hill <happytwo at milepost1 dot com>
Subject: second domain & second set of preferances

Hi
I have a second domain using a second set of preferences.
In SIMS if have the router set

<autoshare@domain2> = autoshare2
<*@domain2> = *

When a message is received at fun@domain everything is as it is supposed to be.
However if a message is sent to autoshare@domain2 the message is returned with
the Default Document.  Mail Backs are enabled.

User is not subscribed, and no mail back is sent.  Just the default document.
This happens no matter what is in the body of the message.

Any ideas on what i am doing incorrectly?

Thanks
Matthew


Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:48:31 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AppleScript over IP in Mac OS 9.0

A little something, which is likely to be useful with AutoShare:

AppleScript Primer Special: AppleScript over IP
   <http://www.maccentral.com/news/9909/01.scriptip.shtml>

Subject: Re: Trouble changing preference sets with web admin
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 23:42:01 -0400
From: Lists <lists at tinymind dot com>

>>I have set up Quid Pro Quo on my mail server which is running EIMS and
>>Autoshare as a cgi for QPQ. When I try to add someone to a list I have to
>>of course change to the preference set for that list, but through the web
>>interface, I cannot get any changes to occur. After submitting my change
>>it goes back to the main page and does not alter anything. If I use TB2
>>and change it with the admin too, it will then work if I add a user via
>>the web interface.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>
>>I would so love it if this would work!
>
>You can verify that you have changed to a given preference set by 
>entering the Preference Sets web page once again, as the preference 
>set pop-up list should reflect the current preference set. Let me 
>know.

I checked and it did not change at all. Crazy but true!

Subject: Managing EIMS accounts via autoshare
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:59:13 -0400
From: Eric Mings <elm at mail.ao dot net>

I previously had good experience interacting with a FMP database through 
Autoshare. I now have the (perhaps wild) idea that I can create and 
manage EIMS email accounts through autshare using EIMS applescript 
capabilities. It is a little more complicated acutally. I have a linux 
server running PHP which I wish could directly interact with EIMS to do 
this, but obviously that ain't gonna fly. So what I plan to do is have 
PHP use a mail function to get sendmail to send a message to an EIMS 
account that triggers an autoshare postprocessing hook to create/manage 
other EIMS accounts. Anyone done such a thing yet?


Regards,

Eric Mings Ph.D.


Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:42:34 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Managing EIMS accounts via autoshare

At 10:59 -0400 9/2/99, Eric Mings wrote:

>I previously had good experience interacting with a FMP database through
>Autoshare. I now have the (perhaps wild) idea that I can create and
>manage EIMS email accounts through autshare using EIMS applescript
>capabilities. It is a little more complicated acutally. I have a linux
>server running PHP which I wish could directly interact with EIMS to do
>this, but obviously that ain't gonna fly. So what I plan to do is have
>PHP use a mail function to get sendmail to send a message to an EIMS
>account that triggers an autoshare postprocessing hook to create/manage
>other EIMS accounts. Anyone done such a thing yet?

It should be possible. For starters, see the process extender sample 
of type Script entitled List Mail Accounts. If you want to trigger 
process extenders by e-mail, the key is to pass needed information 
from the e-mail message to the process extender, or you can simply 
have the process extender read and parse the message file directly. I 
would suggest setting up a dedicated mail account for such as purpose.


Date: 02 Sep 99 14:59:40 -0500
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Re: Managing EIMS accounts via autoshare

         Reply to:   Re: Managing EIMS accounts via autoshare
If this really happens I would be interested in hearing about the results.

Thanks,

Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
=======

Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 10:59 -0400 9/2/99, Eric Mings wrote:
>
>>I previously had good experience interacting with a FMP database through
>>Autoshare. I now have the (perhaps wild) idea that I can create and
>>manage EIMS email accounts through autshare using EIMS applescript
>>capabilities. It is a little more complicated acutally. I have a linux
>>server running PHP which I wish could directly interact with EIMS to do
>>this, but obviously that ain't gonna fly. So what I plan to do is have
>>PHP use a mail function to get sendmail to send a message to an EIMS
>>account that triggers an autoshare postprocessing hook to create/manage
>>other EIMS accounts. Anyone done such a thing yet?
>
>It should be possible. For starters, see the process extender sample =
>of type Script entitled List Mail Accounts. If you want to trigger =
>process extenders by e-mail, the key is to pass needed information =
>from the e-mail message to the process extender, or you can simply =
>have the process extender read and parse the message file directly. I =
>would suggest setting up a dedicated mail account for such as purpose.
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 18:15:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Michael J. Vinca" <MJV2411 at ritvax.isc.rit dot edu>
Subject: .m files are empty!

I am using FileMaker Pro for my lists using the script that came with
Autoshare.  When a list is mailed to, the message gets processed to the
<list>.m file, but this file is empty, so it doesn't get sent to anyone.  I am
looking for where to start troubleshooting.  I'm pretty baffeled.  Could it be
that I have missed a preference?  This is for all lists, and all lists are in
FMP.

Michael J. Vinca
----------------
Newman Story Site:  http://www.rit.edu/~mjv2411/storysite/
E-mail:  avatar at mail.rit dot edu
AOL Instant Messanger: AvatarMJV


Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 09:47:55 -0700
From: Tod Fitch <tod at LTFdesign dot com>
Subject: Web archive index.html files

Hi,

I am new to AutoShare and so I am sure this is an operator setup error....

OS 8.1, SIMS 1.8b6, AutoShare 4.0

I have selected HTML only for the archives, I have set the archive folder
to be one in an area served by my web server and I have selected "Complete"
in the web archive properties using the Admin tool.

When I create a new list and post an item to it, the appropriate folder is
created within the archive folder. I do not see an index.html file being
generated in the top level archive folder.

Within the list folder the only files I see being generated are daily
digest files (which disappear when digests are processed), current.html and
current.toc. I see no index.html files being generated in the top archive
folder nor in the individual list folders.

At present I hand created an index.html for the top level folder (since the
number and names of list won't change often I could live with that), but I
do not want to hand create index.html lists for each list's archive.

When are the index.html files supposed to be generated?

Is there a way to trigger the creation of index.html files immediately via
the admin tool or via an Apple event?

Thank you,
Tod Fitch 

Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 01:18:32 +0100
From: James Berriman <james at acoustic.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Re: Web archive index.html files

At 9:47 am -0700 5/9/99, Tod Fitch wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am new to AutoShare and so I am sure this is an operator setup error....
>
>OS 8.1, SIMS 1.8b6, AutoShare 4.0
>
>I have selected HTML only for the archives, I have set the archive folder
>to be one in an area served by my web server and I have selected "Complete"
>in the web archive properties using the Admin tool.
>
>When I create a new list and post an item to it, the appropriate folder is
>created within the archive folder. I do not see an index.html file being
>generated in the top level archive folder.
>
>Within the list folder the only files I see being generated are daily
>digest files (which disappear when digests are processed), current.html and
>current.toc. I see no index.html files being generated in the top archive
>folder nor in the individual list folders.

It sounds like you have the email archive folder mixed up with the 
web archive folder. The current.toc file is created in the email 
archive folder, which is only used when the archives are requested by 
email.

You should change your archive folder path to point elsewhere, and 
set your default web path to the location you are currently using.

Do [cmd]-L in the admin and click on the 'list' button to find the 
web path entry field. If you want all your lists to be archived in 
the same location, make sure that none of the lists is selected when 
you click on the 'list' button, and you will be able to set the 
default web path.

( :-])  James

--
Website: <http://www.acoustic.demon.co.uk> Phone: +44 (0)1782 720368
I support the Campaign for Unmetered Telecommunications
<http://www.unmetered.org.uk/>

Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 00:14:25 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: .m files are empty!

At 18:15 -0400 9/3/99, Michael J. Vinca wrote:

>I am using FileMaker Pro for my lists using the script that came with
>Autoshare.  When a list is mailed to, the message gets processed to the
><list>.m file, but this file is empty, so it doesn't get sent to anyone.  I am
>looking for where to start troubleshooting.  I'm pretty baffeled.  Could it be
>that I have missed a preference?  This is for all lists, and all lists are in
>FMP.

All your lists are in FMP, and the <list>.m file isn't updated for 
any list? What happened at the time you tested your first list in 
FMP? In any event, the first seven fields of the FMP format must 
adhere to the FMP sample file. Also, make sure that the subscriber 
format is set to Script.


Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 08:51:06 -0700
Subject: Re: .m files are empty!
From: "Michael J. Vinca" <mjv2411 at ritvax.isc.rit dot edu>

Since I am working remotely, the lists were tested on my computer, then I 
built them on the other computer.  The process by which this was done...

Created all EIMS accounts before I left.
Remotely configured each list.  To force lists to be formed in the first
place, blank text files were FTPed to the Lists folder.

After Autoshare restarted, preference sets were formed with defaults.
Remotely, I changed all these preference sets depending on the list.  (NS,
Scripts, etc.)

I then took our old lists, which were in the text format, and copied them to
a non-Autoshare folder (via FTP).  Before I did this, I changed their
creator to Autoshare.  Then I wrote an Applescript Applet to launch these
lists.  This caused the text file to be opened by Autoshare, subscribing the
members to the list.   The members appear in the FMPro database, which tells
me, or so I thought, that the Script setting is working correctly.

Memory is a very limiting factor on the computer at this time.  (They were
supposed to max the memory out two months ago but have failed to do so.  Our
budget is extremely tight.)  Could lack of sufficient memory cause this
behavior?

The format is the exact same format as the database provided with Autoshare
with two exceptions.  The database has been opened in FMP 4.0.  The Date is
in EDT, as prompted by FMP when opened.  No extra fields have been created.

~Mike
--
Have you visited the Newman Story Site lately?
<http://www.rit.edu/~mjv2411/storysite/>

----------
>From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
>To: AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk)
>Subject: Re: .m files are empty!
>Date: Mon, Sep 6, 1999, 12:14 AM
>

>
> All your lists are in FMP, and the <list>.m file isn't updated for
> any list? What happened at the time you tested your first list in
> FMP? In any event, the first seven fields of the FMP format must
> adhere to the FMP sample file. Also, make sure that the subscriber
> format is set to Script.
>
>
>
> **  The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
> **  <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>

Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:57:00 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Trouble changing preference sets with web admin

At 23:42 -0400 9/1/99, Lists wrote:

>I checked and it did not change at all. Crazy but true!

I just did it successfully on James's server across the Atlantic. Are 
you sure you're using the main password of the default preference 
set? (Perhaps I should include a feedback page in this area.) In any 
event, I haven't tested using Quid Pro Quo; James and I use 
NetPresenz, you may want to try that for test purposes.


Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:58:04 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: .m files are empty!

At 08:51 -0700 9/6/99, Michael J. Vinca wrote:

>Memory is a very limiting factor on the computer at this time.  (They were
>supposed to max the memory out two months ago but have failed to do so.  Our
>budget is extremely tight.)  Could lack of sufficient memory cause this
>behavior?

The Database process extender may benefit from a minor memory 
increase. But otherwise it should be okay. I just tested it, and it 
worked fine.

>The format is the exact same format as the database provided with Autoshare
>with two exceptions.  The database has been opened in FMP 4.0.  The Date is
>in EDT, as prompted by FMP when opened.  No extra fields have been created.

I'm using version 2.1v3 of FMP. I don't know if the AppleScript 
dictionary in 4.0 is fully backwards compatible with 2.1. You may 
want to do some local tests to make sure things are working out 
alright.


Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:59:43 -0700
From: Tod Fitch <tod at LTFdesign dot com>
Subject: Re: Web archive index.html files

>At 9:47 am -0700 5/9/99, Tod Fitch wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>I am new to AutoShare and so I am sure this is an operator setup error....
>>
>>OS 8.1, SIMS 1.8b6, AutoShare 4.0
>>
>>I have selected HTML only for the archives, I have set the archive folder
>>to be one in an area served by my web server and I have selected "Complete"
>>in the web archive properties using the Admin tool.
>>
>>When I create a new list and post an item to it, the appropriate folder is
>>created within the archive folder. I do not see an index.html file being
>>generated in the top level archive folder.
>>
>>Within the list folder the only files I see being generated are daily
>>digest files (which disappear when digests are processed), current.html and
>>current.toc. I see no index.html files being generated in the top archive
>>folder nor in the individual list folders.
>
>It sounds like you have the email archive folder mixed up with the
>web archive folder. The current.toc file is created in the email
>archive folder, which is only used when the archives are requested by
>email.
>
>You should change your archive folder path to point elsewhere, and
>set your default web path to the location you are currently using.
>
>Do [cmd]-L in the admin and click on the 'list' button to find the
>web path entry field. If you want all your lists to be archived in
>the same location, make sure that none of the lists is selected when
>you click on the 'list' button, and you will be able to set the
>default web path.
>
>( :-])  James
>

Thanks, you had my error exactly right. And as I expected it was an
operator error.

Tod

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Johan_Bång?= <jbong at hem2.passagen dot se>
Subject: problem
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:30:50 +0200

Hi
I have downloaded AutoShare 4.0 and EIMS, but I cant get even Fun-L example
to work.
If I send a mail Fun-L to the Autoshare account, I get a accept reply but
I never get any copies of the mail I sends to the list.

But if I use a applescript to subscribe, I get mails from the list.

 Whats wrong?
 
  /Johan



Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:03:15 -0600 (MDT)
From: mark malowany <Mark.Malowany at ualberta dot ca>
Subject: Digests have stopped working

I've been using Autoshare for some time now (many years) and in that time
it has flawlessly compiled digests and admin reports 9 am every morning.

Two weeks ago it stopped sending out the reports and digests (though
regular 'live' posts continue to work). I have no clue as to why this has
stopped working. I haven't made any major changes to my system
configuration in the last two weeks (all I can think of that's different
is some new fonts). I did upgrade to a B/W G3 a month ago but it did work
on that system initially.

Any ideas of where I should look/what I should set?

cheers!
marko



Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 15:37:04 -0400
From: Gordon Shupe <gshupe at ix.netcom dot com>
Subject: Anyone know where this comes from?

When someone subscribe to my Autoshare lists via an e-mail, lately
Autoshare has been tacking "...3" on to their subscription listing ie:
gshupe at ix.netcom dot com (Gordon Shupe..3)

Where does this come from? What does it mean?

thanx,

Gordon Shupe
Network Administrator
Stone Middle School- Melbourne, FL


Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:36:02 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: problem

At 10:30 +0200 9/7/99, Johan Bång wrote:

>Hi
>I have downloaded AutoShare 4.0 and EIMS, but I cant get even Fun-L example
>to work.
>If I send a mail Fun-L to the Autoshare account, I get a accept reply but
>I never get any copies of the mail I sends to the list.

The default is that the list contributor doesn't receive own 
postings. You can change that by turning on ack(nowledgment) using 
the set command. (The quick tutorial, 'Testing AutoShare as a user' 
says: "if you would like to receive your own message from the list, 
make sure to first send a set fun-l ack message to the list server".)


Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:39:04 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Digests have stopped working

At 10:03 -0600 9/7/99, mark malowany wrote:

>I've been using Autoshare for some time now (many years) and in that time
>it has flawlessly compiled digests and admin reports 9 am every morning.
>
>Two weeks ago it stopped sending out the reports and digests (though
>regular 'live' posts continue to work). I have no clue as to why this has
>stopped working. I haven't made any major changes to my system
>configuration in the last two weeks (all I can think of that's different
>is some new fonts). I did upgrade to a B/W G3 a month ago but it did work
>on that system initially.
>
>Any ideas of where I should look/what I should set?

It's probably a timing thing. Try resetting the log and digest times 
to something else. Once it works, you can reset to the former times.


Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:49:17 -0700
From: Mark Hartman <mh-list at harthaven dot com>
Subject: Re: Anyone know where this comes from?

At 12:37 PM -0700 9/7/99, Gordon Shupe wrote:
>When someone subscribe to my Autoshare lists via an e-mail, lately
>Autoshare has been tacking "...3" on to their subscription listing ie:
>gshupe at ix.netcom dot com (Gordon Shupe..3)
>
>Where does this come from? What does it mean?

As it says in the AutoShare documentation:

    e-mail-address (user-name..z)

    where z is ruled by the following list of codes:

     0: concealed (if visible, then no 0)
     1: digest (if messages, then no 1)
     2: no mail (if mail, then no 2)
     3: acknowledgement (if not, then no 3)
     4: not allowed to post (if post, then no 4)

So these users that have a "3" will get copies of their own posts when they
post to your mailing list.  (I usually use a default of "034" since most
of my lists are announce-only; a list to which subscribers can post should
probably be "03".)

HTH.

Regards
Mark Hartman



Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 00:25:46 +0100
From: James Berriman <james at acoustic.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Re: Digests have stopped working

At 10:03 am -0600 7/9/99, mark malowany wrote:
>I've been using Autoshare for some time now (many years) and in that time
>it has flawlessly compiled digests and admin reports 9 am every morning.
>
>Two weeks ago it stopped sending out the reports and digests (though
>regular 'live' posts continue to work). I have no clue as to why this has
>stopped working. I haven't made any major changes to my system
>configuration in the last two weeks (all I can think of that's different
>is some new fonts). I did upgrade to a B/W G3 a month ago but it did work
>on that system initially.
>
>Any ideas of where I should look/what I should set?
>
>cheers!
>marko

Has your system clock been incorrectly set at some point? Y2K testing, perhaps?

If AutoShare was running and the clock was set to some future date, 
it may be that the time configured for the next digest is now some 
way off in the distant future!

Have you tried telling AutoShare to send logs/digests immediately? 
(Use the "Now (besides scheduled)" checkbox in the AutoShare 
application's Preferences/Times... dialog). What happens?

( :-])  James

--
Website: <http://www.acoustic.demon.co.uk> Phone: +44 (0)1782 720368
I support the Campaign for Unmetered Telecommunications
<http://www.unmetered.org.uk/>

Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 12:42:17 -0700
Subject: Upgrading AS from 2.4 to 4.0
From: "Timo Ochmann" <ochmann at bigfoot dot com>

hi all ... i am planning to upgrade from AS 2.4 to 4.0 and reading up on 
what's involved in that.

<snip>

Upgrading AutoShare

When upgrading to a new version of AutoShare, please study this document
thoroughly and make sure to clear your current log file (AutoShare Log in
the AutoShare folder, where the AutoShare preferences are stored, inside the
System 7 savvy Preferences folder) and the current archive files (in your
Archives folder) before installing the version, as the format of these may
have changed in the new version. You can clear the log by pressing the Now
button using the Times menu item in the server application, as sending logs
initializes the logs at the same time. The current files in the Archives
folder are simply the archive files, whose names begin with Current and
which can be cleared by renaming them, and also the digest files, which can
be cleared in a way similar to the logs.

<snip end>

if i understand the above procedure correctly the following needs to happen
for a successful upgrade:

a) clear the AS log file by either deleting it from the AS prefs folder or
by selecting TIMES/NOW in the AS admin app
b) clear the AS digest files by selecting TIMES/NOW in the AS admin app
c) rename all 'Current' files in the AS archives folder

so here is what i should do then:

- move all data i want to keep from the old AS 2.4 to the appropriate 4.0
folder locations.
- open the AS 4.0 admin app and clear logs and digests
- rename all 'Current' files in AS archives folder
- start AS 4.0 server app

... done!

question:

instead of renaming all 'Current' files in AS archives folder to <what's the
new naming convention?>, couldn't i just remove them entirely, keep them on
files elsewhere and have AS 4.0 rebuilt the AS archives folder structure for
each mailing list upon restarting the server app?

any comments? ... thanks.

--
Timo Ochmann <mailto:timo at bigmindmedia dot com>
BigMindMedia <http://www.bigmindmedia.com/>
Information Architect / System Administrator
Home: 425.258.3297 / Cell: 425.750.3015 / Fax: 419.831.5657



Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:15:25 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Upgrading AS from 2.4 to 4.0

Doing times/now for logs and digests would be okay (it's done due to 
potential changes in the formatting of log and digest files). The 
digest time/now takes care of the current file pair for digests; you 
may want to rename the current archive files as well.

>instead of renaming all 'Current' files in AS archives folder to <what's the
>new naming convention?>, couldn't i just remove them entirely, keep them on
>files elsewhere and have AS 4.0 rebuilt the AS archives folder structure for
>each mailing list upon restarting the server app?

You could, but then the digests and archives would be missing some 
messages. Not a big deal, unless you prefer to be entirely complete. 
And if you do nothing at all, there might a single log, digest, 
archive which looks funny. That's all.


Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 16:09:02 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Subscription choices

Hi Mikael,

Autoshare list types (according to balloon help):

OPEN: Anyone can subscribe, anyone can submit
SUBSCRIPTION: Anyone can subscribe, subscribers can submit
MODERATED: Anyone can subscribe, posts must be approved by listmaster
ANNOUNCEMENT:  Anyone can subscribe, only listmaster can post
PRIVATE: No one can subscribe, subscribers can submit

I don't see the combination that I need to use, so I'm wondering if there
are some settings I could use in conjunction with one of the above settings
to have a list which behaves as follows:

- Subscription requests go to moderator for approval
- Posts to the list go to the moderator for approval

Bill
+----------------------------------------------------------------+
| Camelot Administrator,  mailto:camelot.admin at lmco dot com          |
| Lockheed Martin, Enterprise Information Systems, Sunnyvale, CA |
+----------------------------------------------------------------+

Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:41:48 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Subscription choices

At 16:09 -0700 9/9/99, Camelot Administrator wrote:

>Autoshare list types (according to balloon help):
>
>OPEN: Anyone can subscribe, anyone can submit
>SUBSCRIPTION: Anyone can subscribe, subscribers can submit
>MODERATED: Anyone can subscribe, posts must be approved by listmaster
>ANNOUNCEMENT:  Anyone can subscribe, only listmaster can post
>PRIVATE: No one can subscribe, subscribers can submit
>
>I don't see the combination that I need to use, so I'm wondering if there
>are some settings I could use in conjunction with one of the above settings
>to have a list which behaves as follows:
>
>- Subscription requests go to moderator for approval
>- Posts to the list go to the moderator for approval

The first of these two requirements is somewhat unsual, as list 
server requests cannot be automated (redirected) for approval the way 
that list contributions do. I would go for a moderated list and then 
set up a process extender of type Before Processing, which replaces 
the address of the envelope recipient with that of the listmaster and 
then immediately moves the message file to the Incoming Mail folder. 
You would first check for the list name and the list server command. 
This would treat subscriptions like an private list does.

Maybe I'll do something similar to
   /=forward <address> = sends copy of original message to address
which instead would be
   /=redirect <address> = redirects original message to address
to be added to your sub document.


Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:05:50 +0100
From: James Berriman <james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk>
Subject: Re: Subscription choices

At 6:41 pm -0700 9/9/99, Mikael Hansen wrote

>>- Subscription requests go to moderator for approval
>>- Posts to the list go to the moderator for approval
>


>Maybe I'll do something similar to
>  /=forward <address> = sends copy of original message to address
>which instead would be
>  /=redirect <address> = redirects original message to address
>to be added to your sub document.

In the mean time, how about trying this:

Create a list-specific sub document with no /=sub token (including a 
note that the request has been forwarded to the moderator) and add a 
/=forward token to send it to the moderator.

( :-])  James

--
Website: <http://www.acoustic.demon.co.uk> Phone: +44 (0)1782 720368
I support the Campaign for Unmetered Telecommunications
<http://www.unmetered.org.uk/>

Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 04:02:34 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Subscription choices

At 10:05 +0100 9/10/99, James Berriman wrote:

>>Maybe I'll do something similar to
>>  /=forward <address> = sends copy of original message to address
>>which instead would be
>>  /=redirect <address> = redirects original message to address
>>to be added to your sub document.
>
>In the mean time, how about trying this:
>
>Create a list-specific sub document with no /=sub token (including a 
>note that the request has been forwarded to the moderator) and add a 
>/=forward token to send it to the moderator.

The /=forward token is intended for standard auto-responses only, but 
I can look into changing that.


Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 22:27:31 +0900
From: "Richard M. Pavonarius" <richard at global-commons.co dot jp>
Subject: supressing attachments

Is there a way to prevent dimwits from sending attachments to an AutoShare
mailing list?

Thanks,

Rich
------------------------------------------------------------------
Richard M. Pavonarius, Global Commons, Inc., Tokyo

Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 10:03:15 -0700
From: "Michael C. Gilbert" <mcg at halcyon dot com>
Subject: Appleshare IP or Web STAR Mail Servers?

Hi --

I'm seriously considering moving to an integrated web and mail server such
as WebSTAR 4 or Appleshare IP 6.2. It would simplify some things enormously
for me... Any chance of getting autoshare to work in either environment?

TIA

-- Michael



Subject: Re: supressing attachments
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 10:15:16 -0400
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>

I have tried and tried, but to no effect. I think you just have to live 
with it. 

On 9/19/99 9:27 AM, Richard M. Pavonarius said:

>Is there a way to prevent dimwits from sending attachments to an AutoShare
>mailing list?


Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/

Alice: ³The King seems so prejudiced.²
King: ³Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to =
be 
Judge.²
Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll


Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:27:03 +0100
From: James Berriman <james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk>
Subject: Re: supressing attachments

At 10:15 am -0400 20/9/99, Charles L. Martin wrote:
>I have tried and tried, but to no effect. I think you just have to live
>with it.
>
>On 9/19/99 9:27 AM, Richard M. Pavonarius said:
>
> >Is there a way to prevent dimwits from sending attachments to an AutoShare
> >mailing list?

Set a maximum message size (i.e. a maximum number of lines), and 
anything larger will be rejected. This catches most attachments. You 
will find this under "lines" in the list configuration options.

( :-])  James

--
Website: <http://www.acoustic.demon.co.uk> Phone: +44 (0)1782 720368
I support the Campaign for Unmetered Telecommunications
<http://www.unmetered.org.uk/>

Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:21:46 +0100
From: Bill Bedford <billbpm at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Re: supressing attachments

At 10:15 am -0400 20/09/99, Charles L. Martin wrote:

>I have tried and tried, but to no effect. I think you just have to live
>with it.
>
>On 9/19/99 9:27 AM, Richard M. Pavonarius said:
>
>>Is there a way to prevent dimwits from sending attachments to an AutoShare
>>mailing list?
>

You can write a before processing script that returns any mail with a 
'This is a message in MIME format' first line. This works [sometimes 
too] well
-- 
Bill Bedford                            mailto://billb at mousa.demon.co dot uk

"It would seem that you have no useful skill or talent whatsoever," he
said.  "Have you thought of going into teaching?"

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 01:24:12 -0500
From: Michael Croft <michael at whiterose dot org>
Subject: SIMS 1.8b6, AS4.0: can't figure out how to have two moderators

Is it possible to do team list moderation?  I've already set it up so 
that my fiancee and I can both send to the moderated list we're 
creating, but what we really want is for both of us to get the mail 
to the moderator so that either of us could approve it.

I can't seem to come up with a setting for the Lists command for our 
list to make it work, and when I try setting it to a SIMS 
distribution list, it only sends to me.

What am I doing wrong here?  I check the docs and the archives, but I 
didn't see anything like this.

TIA,
Michael Croft
>--------------
Michael Croft                   "Babeheart?  What's it about?"
mailto:michael at whiterose dot org        "It's about a cute little pig that
http://www.whiterose.org    slaughters the English" -- Freakazoid
>--------------

From: "Jesse Williams Proudman" <jwilliams-proudman at ninewire dot com>
Subject: Auto Responders
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 23:37:51 -0700

Can autoshare to REAL auto responses?

IE:
User account in SIMS is ->

client1.clientname

Can Autoshare autoreply using ->

clientname at client1 dot com

???

        Jesse Williams Proudman - NineWire Productions
 http://www.ninewire.com <-> JWilliams-Proudman at ninewire dot com
        Innovative and Creative Web Design and Hosting

Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 23:00:25 +0200
From: HOnza Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: Fwd: Remote review

I use AutoShare 4.0 and set all lists to use the internal database 
format. Today I tried to request a review, and received the following 
response. What should I think about it?

HOnza


>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain
>To: konference-owner at appleklub dot cz
>Precedence: bulk
>From: mail-robot at appleklub dot cz (Listserver Bounce)
>Subject: Remote review
>Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 22:36:03 +0200
>
><password> review list konference
>
>24u at telecom.cz (24u at telecom dot cz. dot 320)

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If you are crazy enough, look at http://www.appleklub.cz/~koudelka/

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 07:02:43 -0700
From: Mark Hartman <mh-list at harthaven dot com>
Subject: Kudos to AutoShare

I just thought I'd pass along some recent happenings with my lists, and
why I'm using AutoShare for them.

I've been seeing a pattern recently of someone sending a subscribe request
to a list, then sending a spam, then sending an unsubscribe.  For most list
servers, this would work.

However, Mikael made it simple enough to set up confirmation requests for
any action that ALL my lists are set up that way - and, since the spammer
is always using a bogus address, they never get the confirmation requests
and therefore never get subscribed... and the spam never gets out.

If I'm seeing this kind of activity, you're probably going to see it soon.
If you have ANY list which does not require mail-back confirmation, you
can count on a spammer using it very shortly, and your users blaming you.
I've got the feeling that lack of mail-back confirmation on a list will
shortly become as offensive as an open mail relay.  Luckily, AutoShare will
handle this with virtually no effort on your part.



From: Laine  Lee <LLee at utsa dot edu>
Subject: Process Extender basic question
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:54:05 -0500

I'll admit that I don't understand the documentation about process extenders
very well, but I do a little applescript and I just thought I'd ask:

Is a process extender what I need to do something like adding a short
identifying label text (such as [Fun-L]) to the subject or from field of
each message that AutoShare distributes?

Thanks.



Laine D. Lee
llee at utsa dot edu
http://www.txdirect.net/users/llee
Internet Email: llee at txdirect dot net

Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:51:48 -0500
From: Jeffrey Folk <jfolk at qzoneinc dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk partial digest 23 Sep 1999

> Is a process extender what I need to do something like adding a short
> identifying label text (such as [Fun-L]) to the subject or from field of
> each message that AutoShare distributes?
>

No, you do that from Autoshare Admin. Configuration menu > lists. Select the list
and click the list button. The prefix field puts the label before the subject on
all mailings. Put the label you want to be added into the field and click update.


Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:16:10 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: SIMS 1.8b6, AS4.0: can't figure out how to have two moderators

At 01:24 -0500 9/22/99, Michael Croft wrote:

>Is it possible to do team list moderation?  I've already set it up 
>so that my fiancee and I can both send to the moderated list we're 
>creating, but what we really want is for both of us to get the mail 
>to the moderator so that either of us could approve it.

Yes, that is possible. In the documentation, see

Running the server
   Running a list server
     List server and list basics
       Moderators


Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:18:20 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Remote review

At 23:00 +0200 9/21/99, HOnza Koudelka wrote:

>I use AutoShare 4.0 and set all lists to use the internal database 
>format. Today I tried to request a review, and received the 
>following response. What should I think about it?

I don't get the garbage that you got, just nothing in that part of 
the body. The remote review is supported for the standard subscriber 
format only, for reasons that escape me at this time, but probably 
due to optional fields. You can use the Review process extender 
sample of type Remote.


Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:19:30 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Auto Responders

At 23:37 -0700 9/21/99, Jesse Williams Proudman wrote:

>Can autoshare to REAL auto responses?
>
>IE:
>User account in SIMS is ->
>
>client1.clientname
>
>Can Autoshare autoreply using ->
>
>clientname at client1 dot com
>
>???

I'm not sure I understand. There is no built-in feature to configure 
the sender address to whatever you like. If you write a process 
extender, you can do it.


Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:20:11 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Kudos to AutoShare

At 07:02 -0700 9/22/99, Mark Hartman wrote:

>Luckily, AutoShare will handle this with virtually no effort on your part.

Thanks :-)